Let me tell you a crazy story and you tell me how outlandish it sounds: right now, you probably sitting down, relaxing with a can of beer. However, you’re really spinning real fast. Actually, everything is spinning fast. The whole earth is spinning, I know you don’t feel you are moving but you are. What’s more, you are not only spinning on that ball we call earth but the ball itself is spinning around another bigger ball. I know, nothing is actually moving. I must be full of it. I know, you don’t feel dizzy but…it’s true. Outlandish? Certainly. Can I prove? I am not sure. Is it true. YES!
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David Chesky on Streaming Convenience vs Sound Quality
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Of course it can be proved!
You do realise that in making that statement, you are relying on - and trusting - the work done by hundreds or thousands of scientitsts over the previous 500 years or so.
Don't you?
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In science there is no proof and no "truth" either, theories are elaborate and structured ensembles of claims supported by experimental evidence and logic (together with that razor of old Ockham). The truly good theories have a LOT of evidence and experiments as support. For instance it is not a good idea to bet against energy conservation among many other things. (That is as close to truth as it gets.)
It is a completely antiscientific concept to question those theories just for the sake of questioning, without a shred of evidence.
And that is basically what @Spenav tries to do.
MoreWatts
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With the denial of the null-test, Mr. Chesky illustrates perfectly this quote from musician-comedian Tim Minchin:
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."
Mr. Chesky believes he will make a lot more money if people buy his downloads instead of subscribing to someone else's streaming service.
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."
Mr. Chesky believes he will make a lot more money if people buy his downloads instead of subscribing to someone else's streaming service.
akamatsu
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A few years ago I did a "blind" test. I took three versions of one song. One was a ripped CD, one was CD quality streaming, the third was 24/96 streaming. I put all three in a playlist and set it on random. I proceeded to go outside to do some yard work. Every 15 minutes or so I'd come inside the house and see if I could tell which version was playing. Well, I found myself guessing, and guessing wrong most of the time. This was my experience. However, I can't use my data point to refute Mr. DC's data point of his experience. If he says he experienced it, then who am I to say that he didn't? I may have an idea as to why he experienced what he did, but I'm not going to throw out the data point because it isn't supported by my opinion or my hypothesis.
Thinking that we should be in the least bothered by earth rotation and gravity is... interesting. I thought Newtonian physics had established themselves a little by now...
I've tried some of Chesky's recordings, and only because I was attracted to some of his logical approach to audio. Now he's going into fuzzy areas for his own survival perhaps but not very convincing in any case.
akamatsu
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By the way, Dr. Toole makes the same quote said differently in his book. I think it applies so well to what I read on hifi fora. Treating people's experiences as data points is a more scientific way of looking at things, in my opinion.With the denial of the null-test, Mr. Chesky illustrates perfectly this quote from musician-comedian Tim Minchin:
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."
Mr. Chesky believes he will make a lot more money if people buy his downloads instead of subscribing to someone else's streaming service.
Nobody is defending Dr. Chesky. I believe he erred. I just don’t believe that gives anyone the right to attack him personally.
Coincidentally in the direction of trying to increase revenue for his business.
Totally coincidental, I'm sure.
That’s my point. It can also change, just like the theory that I knew in high school about gravity changed. It’s no longer about masses but involves time-lenses. That’s ok. We are moving forward. I wish I could see where we will be in the year 5000.
They had until a young physicist named Albert Einstein started to question the whole reasoning around universal gravitational rotation and poked some holes in it.
You must be at least 125 years old, then.
Yeah, definitely, ask for a refund.
Yes, I'm sure Einstein never produced any concrete evidence afterwards.
Do you even logic?
You are wrong in a couple of counts. I am not trying to question any theory. There ARE truth in science. Ohm’s law is true, so is the third law of thermodynamics among others. There is no such thing as a bad scientific theory. Any theory can be rejected if new evidence can prove it erroneous.
Ok since you insist: for starter, the way we use a singular microphone to simulate our auditory system.
Actually, he did. It’s part of the Theory of Relativity.
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