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I don't think that's your decision to make.
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I don't think that's your decision to make.
Another virus thread?
the UK has chosen not to close society down.
Starting tomorrow, March 16, 2020 only humanitarian supplies will be allowed off airplanes in Panama.
Any returning resident foreigner or Panama citizen will be allowed entry, but will be required to be in preventive isolation at home for 14 days.
(Per tweet by President Cortizo translated by James Bondoux)
The Ministry due to the national emergency orders the temporary closure of commercial establishments throughout the country, excepting supermarkets, pharmacies, medical centers and establishments for the sale of health products, fuel, and food. This applies to commercial centers.
Pertaining to restaurants, service to the public by inside seating is suspended.The sale of food prepared for local consumption will be allowed, exclusively for take away or home delivery.
For access to establishments whose opening is allowed, the public is encouraged to use masks. In addition, access to beaches, rivers, swimming pools and public spas is prohibited.
The Ministry of Health, in coordination with the State security departments, is empowered to carry out sanitary closures throughout the territory.
Surveillance includes entry to commercial and non-commercial establishments, which includes hotels, casinos, restaurants, as well as playgrounds that operate inside and outside restaurants or private residential complexes.
It is prohibited for supermarkets to have more than fifty people inside. Mechanisms should be established so that users forma line outside the establishment, keeping a distance of not less than one meter between each client.
The UK is preparing for Brexit. I wonder how much weight that has put in the Goverment's decision. If closing down society has a strong impact on the economy then Britain will strugle even more from the impact of Brexit.
It doesn't offer a good guideline on anything else beyond what is obvious to anyone who reads
He used 1% for the fatality rate. And talked about the fact 20% of those tested were positive while only testing those exposed or showing symptoms. I think even he would agree he is working with a paucity of data. He did the later guess at 1% for the general US pop based upon the idea only 20% and mostly elderly people were infected in a closed condition on the Princess Diamond cruise ship. To me that was the very weakest part of his argument even using his data. Using his lower rate of fatal cases if something more like 20% of the population in general is infected you start seeing exceptionally large numbers of deaths.Indeed. It's just a list of "well, what about.. ?", which anyone with half a brain can do. It offers no guidance on what we should be doing. Apart from better testing to better understand the epidemiology.
Whilst his final section considers the consequences of a 60% total infection rate, his earlier discussion uses a 1% assumption for the US. The Princess Diamond infection rate was 17%, even with infection control measures. The US decided to remove its citizens because it was clear that those measures were inadequate, leaving its citizens at risk. Other countries were forced to follow suit, and eventually all passengers were released and the containment abandoned. It appears that this virus is unusually infectious.
The other thing that limited case studies such as cruise liners don't consider is the ability to supportively treat a few hundreds, spread across multiple nations. A more interesting case study might be the Italian situation, where, as I understand it, selective treatment had to be deployed due to the numbers, choosing not to treat those considered likely to die anyway. That would be more representative of the rapid peaking situation that would occur with a laissez-faire approach.
My next door neighbor and his Wife were on the"You take the risk and we make more money" culture is resisting the current pandemic action plans:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/18/tech-execs-who-dont-agree-coronavirus-measures
"You take the risk and we make more money" culture is resisting the current pandemic action plans:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/18/tech-execs-who-dont-agree-coronavirus-measures