Chinese Hi-Fi Influencer Takes Aim at Topping: Dispute Finally Settled, Quick Recap for the Curious

[Palladium]

Actually if "Chi-fi" equals to "audio equipment made in China", then probably 90% of electronics qualifies as "Chi-Fi". E.g. Bowers and Wilkins ;-)

I work in very niche industry, where for decades it was "only Germans can do it properly" and now Germans go and learn from Chinese manufacturers. Not how to be more cost effective, but how to stay technically relevant.

From my limited experience, Germans make awful power supplies and UPSes versus the Chinese.

 

[unpluggged]

Actually if "Chi-fi" equals to "audio equipment made in China"

It is not.

now Germans go and learn from Chinese manufacturers.

Thank you, I had not have such a laugh for a long time. You made my day. What RME can learn from the Guangdong guys? How to make amps that explode in stanby and fry headphones and DACs that can't receive digital data over Toslink without stuttering? Or how to push half-baked products to market every month and leave their customers to deal with defects by themselves without any form of post-sale product support?

 

[Fidji]

From my limited experience, Germans make awful power supplies and UPSes versus the Chinese.

Luckily, I do not work in consumer eletronics.

More like ultra precise machinery manufacturing

 

[Roland68]

From my limited experience, Germans make awful power supplies and UPSes versus the Chinese.

That's really ridiculous. Where did you get this information from?
I have experience with power supplies and UPS in high availability IT, as well as with Chinese power supplies in the audio sector and I can't understand your statement.
Most of the Chinese power supplies in the audio sector that I had in my hands worked, but weren't particularly great. There are various DIY power supplies and developments from the neighboring forum that are significantly better.

 

[Palladium]

That's really ridiculous. Where did you get this information from?
I have experience with power supplies and UPS in high availability IT, as well as with Chinese power supplies in the audio sector and I can't understand your statement.
Most of the Chinese power supplies in the audio sector that I had in my hands worked, but weren't particularly great. There are various DIY power supplies and developments from the neighboring forum that are significantly better.

Over here I have to maintain German 230V to 12V industrial UPSes that were physically huge and overspecced for a tiny 30W load at most, and yet these are also by far the ones that fail the most.

The failure rate is a ton more than my far more numerous Chinese OEM 1 to 20KW server UPSes that run much higher loads.

Sorry to blow your precious bubble.

 

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The failure rate is a ton more than my far more numerous Chinese OEM 1 to 20KW server UPSes that run much higher loads.

Yeah, like that Huawei enterprise UPS that I was installing once in a remote location that had one of its twenty series-connected 12 V lead-acid batteries just dead (no voltage across its terminals, so I wonder what kind of a production defect it had). So much for QC on those factories. I had a great time removing the 80 kg box (the battery module) from the rack that was located in a 2×2 meters closet after it failed to power on.

 

[Roland68]

Over here I have to maintain German 230V to 12V industrial UPSes that were physically huge and overspecced for a tiny 30W load at most, and yet these are also by far the ones that fail the most.

The failure rate is a ton more than my far more numerous Chinese OEM 1 to 20KW server UPSes that run much higher loads.

Sorry to blow your precious bubble.

You can't let any illusions be shattered.
We ourselves are manufacturers and suppliers in the field of high-energy technology in industry and a few other areas. I know your example exactly the other way round.
Of course there are bad manufacturers in Germany, the EU and the USA too, but to draw conclusions about the rest based on one bad one is absolute nonsense.