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Caffeine intake and hearing loss

Mods, is there any chance we could gather all the hearing, hearing aid, tinitis, etc. related threads into its own subcategory? There are quite a few scattered here and there and it's not obvious where they all belong.
 
I was hoping they had defined high caffeine intake where normal people might put it, but they have defined high as less than 1 cup of coffee, just above 1 cup of tea, so not so much high as not very low.

I didn't see anything about controlling for noise / music exposure between the groups, did I miss it?
 
No suprise to me, empirically (speaking from experience) I'd say nicotine from e-cigarettes does the same. It happened to me in a stressful period of long work days dragging too much on an e-cigarette loaded with too strong e-liquid. Nicotine's molecule is similar to caffeine's.
 
In the O.P. cited report their closing discussion mentions there are published findings of the reverse correlation of coffee with hearing loss (it "reduced risk"). See screen shot below from cited report. The authors apparently think Americans' (whatever that actually means genetically in the self-identified ethnic subsets of subjects) hearing loss dynamic "may" somehow have different dynamics than the British (whatever that means genetically) an/or Koreans. I don't drink coffee (or tea) myself and definitely have hearing loss.

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In the O.P. cited report their closing discussion mentions there are published findings of the reverse correlation of coffee with hearing loss (it "reduced risk"). See screen shot below from cited report. The authors apparently think Americans' (whatever that actually means genetically in the self-identified ethnic subsets of subjects) hearing loss dynamic "may" somehow have different dynamics than the British (whatever that means genetically) an/or Koreans. I don't drink coffee (or tea) myself and definitely have hearing loss.

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But this study
Association of coffee consumption with the prevalence of hearing loss in US adults
showed a positive correlation between coffee consumption and hearing loss. So, take your pick on which studies (if any) to believe.
 
Mods, is there any chance we could gather all the hearing, hearing aid, tinitis, etc. related threads into its own subcategory? There are quite a few scattered here and there and it's not obvious where they all belong.

We already have a psychoacoustics forum. Psychoacoustics is about how individuals hear, from the shoulders/pinna/neck/head (i.e. HRTF) to eardrums, to cochlea, and brain. I think these should all go in there.

If you want attention from mods, just tag them - @AdamG and @Jimbob54 and @amirm
 
Examine.com recently posted a summary of a study done to explore the association between caffeine intake and hearing loss. High caffeine intake was associated with increased odds of speech-frequency hearing loss. Here's a link to the study:

Association between caffeine intake from foods and beverages in the diet and hearing loss in United States adults
That's odd one. Considering all the potential benefits of coffee (caffeine and coffee are not interchangeable terms BTW), I'm not giving up coffee any time soon. I'd need to see far more convincing evidence. I don't drink energy drinks or use caffeine containing supplements myself.
 
Examine.com recently posted a summary of a study done to explore the association between caffeine intake and hearing loss. High caffeine intake was associated with increased odds of speech-frequency hearing loss. Here's a link to the study:

Association between caffeine intake from foods and beverages in the diet and hearing loss in United States adults
For as long as I can remember, there have been countless studies that were supposed to prove that coffee or caffeine intake leads to some kind of health disadvantage.
Over time, almost all or even all of these studies have been refuted.
I'm curious how long it will take until this study is refuted.
 
The effect of coffee may not be a one-sided matter. If, for example, you're like me and suffering from notoriously low blood pressure, it may well provide a net positive effect just by maintaining enough blood circulation. The same may not be the case for those with normal to high blood pressure to begin with. (Still stiicking with tea, thank you very much.)
 
Associated with and linked to are grant proposal phrases meaning, “We have no evidence, now give us more money so we can try to find some.”
 
For as long as I can remember, there have been countless studies that were supposed to prove that coffee or caffeine intake leads to some kind of health disadvantage.
Over time, almost all or even all of these studies have been refuted.
I'm curious how long it will take until this study is refuted.

Living and getting older leads to all kinds of health disadvantages ;)
 
I try to have my hot coffee thru my mouth rather than thru my ears. It's both desirable for the hearing loss and for the taste.
 
So, they just examined coffee drinkers and non- coffee drinkers? Sounds useless to me.

No way of knowing whether people, who are genetically predisposed for picking up the habit of drinking coffee, are simply also genetically predisposed for having accelerated hearing loss.

Actual usefull data would require making a large randomized group of non- coffee drinkers drink either coffee or decaf (placebo) for a prolonged period of time, and then comparing it to a control group of non- coffee drinkers.
 
We already have a psychoacoustics forum. Psychoacoustics is about how individuals hear, from the shoulders/pinna/neck/head (i.e. HRTF) to eardrums, to cochlea, and brain. I think these should all go in there.

If you want attention from mods, just tag them - @AdamG and @Jimbob54 and @amirm
It seems simple. But moving all these different hearing conventions into one big thread would be a major mess. Yes, granted we already do that with other subjects but in those cases, the subjects are mostly settled science. These stories are very real and personal. We are willing to try going forward. If anyone is willing to start the Master Thread placeholder depository and come back here and drop a link to that thread. We will be happy to move posts going forward.
 
Had unhealthy amount of coffee intake during my work at HP since coffee was for free. At my advanced age now I have high frequency hearing loss (> 10 kHz) like all other people have it in my age. Some need already hearing devices which I do not. Speech I can hear very well and music datails also. My coffee consumption is now less because risk of high blood pressure.
 
High blood pressure is the main link. Anything that causes high blood pressure, alcohol, caffeine, excess salt intake, and marihuana are candidate's. Interesting how most studies always come back, to exercise and diet as your best defense.
 
I don't like coffee (There, I said it) and only consumed the odd espresso some decades back to wake me up enough to get home (Lord I was an idiot back then, far more than now :) ). I do drink several cuppas of tea (Twinings is my poison there, so not the stronger stuff you could stand your spoon up in :D ), but not sure that has anything to do with my hearing losses, which I put down mostly to genetics and age, as my Dad suffered too according to my Mum, but did nothing about it).

Current studies are now showing that even one alcoholic drink is bad for you, so that's me well and truly stuffed when I want a beer or scotch in the evenings... :(
 
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