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Avery Fisher Hall, now Geffen Hall

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I haven't been to the new hall, since I now live in Seattle, but has anyone heard what the new new new Philharmonic Hall sounds like?

Having been a bit of a fly on the wall about previous "resets" I'm curious.
 

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I attended this evening, sat on the orchestra floor seat Z15.

It sounds much better. Warmer, louder, and more intimate. It is quite live, and brass notes ring in the hall for a half second after the musicians stop blowing. But it doesn’t get muddy-I think it strikes a good balance. The only instrument that bugged me a little was the open piano at the front of the stage (piano concerto). Sounded a bit harsh/reflective in the range just above treble clef.

Visually, there is a LOT of diffusion, but much less absorption. The surfaces in the front half of the hall (stage and sides) are all hard-wood and angled for diffusing. The ceiling has visible diffusing panels for the first third of the hall (can’t really tell how absorbent) and what look like metal cages coming down for the last two-thirds. The only thing that bugged me is that the overhangs don’t appear to have absorption. I’ve had some problems with that, mostly with amplified music. You will see some hard flat surfaces in the photos. They all angle upwards. The ones that angle towards the audience have much more contour until you get to the back third of the hall.

So overall, on the ‘wet’ side, surprisingly so. But still clear and easy to hear individual instruments.
 

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There are some things about New York City that I still miss . . .
 

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Different seats tonight. Also, a look at the diffuser/decoration around the all the doors.
 

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Sound system:
 

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Even behind the tier seats the wood is tilted up


And the weird seat fabric makes empty seats less obvious.
 

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Pretty full for this program:
 

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Well, tonight I'm attending this screening of Vertigo with a live orchestra in Geffen. Should be fun. My seats are 27th row dead center.

 

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I haven't been to the new hall, since I now live in Seattle, but has anyone heard what the new new new Philharmonic Hall sounds like?

Having been a bit of a fly on the wall about previous "resets" I'm curious.
Yes I have been. Still sucks IMO
 
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The orchestra sounds great from dead center towards the rear as well. It’s fun to see the movie with the score foregrounded like this. And a lot of what works in this movie is the score- there are some scenes that would have no tension at all but for the music.

One annoying thing is the noise-gating they had to do on the film. When the actors are outside or there is other background noise in the film, the background noise switches on and off with their dialogue producing a very strange and distracting effect.

They are doing ET soon. I suspect in that case they might have had access to the master and can simply run it without the recorded music.

Incidentally, I used my decibel meter during some of the louder moments. Even a climactic percussion crash (during one of the falls from the convent tower), from my seat, was only in the 90s.
 

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thank you

Can you elaborate on your opinion ?
Sure. I was there for an evening of Rachmaninov piano concertos. Overall the sound was very homogenous and diffused. The piano was often hard to distinguish. In the loud passages these problems were much more severe and the sound was rather hard and ugly.
 
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