Finally I had a chance to play with it again. I did new measurements for direct to bass conversion script. One mic position at MLP, first 2 measurements sub1 to sub1 output, third measurement sub2 to sub1 output. Got new extracted measurements and I wanted to ask how do you merge it with Audyssey measurements with 3 different mic positions? Do I simply overwrite all extracted SW .txt files?
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Audyssey Manual Calibration “OCA’s REW + Audyssey Awesomeness”
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I can't try modified Multi-EQ, because I don't have Android device.Uninstall REW and reinstall the latest beta:
Install the EVO Electrified wizard app:
Releases · pulento/A1Evo_Electrified
Electron port of A1Evo. Contribute to pulento/A1Evo_Electrified development by creating an account on GitHub.github.com
Uninstall your Google play Multi-EQ app and manually install the modified latest version instead:
Now use the modified app to take new measurements. Take 3 at the same mic location (MLP). Then use EVO Electrified. Increase frequency range to 10000Hz and maxboost + overall maxboost to +6dB, run and generate the master .adt and load it to AVR.
Now take REW measurements in with AVR in stereo mode (REW must generate mono test tons for L+R+sub) with DEQ off, and repost the results. They should look better than both of the results you posted here.
You just run Evo with the ady file conversion script generated from your 3 measurement calibration.
Yes but sorting the bass in the room solves many issues related to single mic point measurements.Does that mean that you are locked to one position measurements this way? Sorry for being stupid here, but the more I read about it, the more lost I feel, haha
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Struggling to understand the EVO/Maestro version, I did several attempts in connection with my Denon AVR-S970H and a 4.1 speaker set. All results were unsatisfying.
In order to have a look at my latest EVO/Maestro generated .ady-file via REW, I sent that file through the script (»Upload calibration«) and loaded all resulting .txt-files (16 of them) into REW. What I saw then puzzled me quite a bit: All SPL&Phase charts, except the one called »_micCal« look absolutely identical.
I even opened some of the .txt-files with a text editor – and I couldn’t find a single difference ...
I guess that is proof that something went wrong, isn’t it?
In order to have a look at my latest EVO/Maestro generated .ady-file via REW, I sent that file through the script (»Upload calibration«) and loaded all resulting .txt-files (16 of them) into REW. What I saw then puzzled me quite a bit: All SPL&Phase charts, except the one called »_micCal« look absolutely identical.
I even opened some of the .txt-files with a text editor – and I couldn’t find a single difference ...
I guess that is proof that something went wrong, isn’t it?
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The AVR-S970H is not compatible with EVO/Nexus. I wouldn't bother with it/ You need at least an X2700H to notice any difference from the default Audyssey.
What you are looking at are the speaker measurement responses in the optimized ady file which are all set to "perfect speaker" to avoid Audyssey from generating its own filters. The filters are hidden in "custom target curve points" in the ady. The reason you are seeing a mic cal file instead of a full flat line is because your AVR comes with a Cirrus Logic DSP chip and these models cannot apply mic calibration in the app and it needs to be done in the AVR. Maestro among other things detects all that automatically. Your repeated comments about unsatisfying results are hard to understand because of lack of any detail other than lower volume level. It gets worse when you compare results with the default Audyssey calibration. If you stop Evo optimization in the middle and upload that to your AVR, it will still sound better than default Audyssey. Actually, turning off Audyssey completely will sound better than default Audyssey in most cases.
Edit: I see that your 4.1 system is composed of merely front mains and front heights??? That leaves no space for Atmos decoder to model a sound object in your room. You can try moving FHL&FHR to RHL & RHR to maybe achieve some kind of height and surround effect with just 4 speakers. If that's not an Atmos system then front heights should be replaced with side surrounds.
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Understood. I opened one of the .ady-files with a hex-editor and found the string »customTargetCurvePoints« mentioned five times.
Correct. It is actually like a stereo setup, plus two additional heights and a sub, all of them gathering near my TV set. If that setup won’t basically qualify for EVO/Maestro calibration enhancements, than I have to live with that
My general intention here is to learn how to use the »EVO/Maestro thing« properly, because I like the concept of it – as far as I understand it.
Old high end Yamaha's before the times of Atmos used to come with front heights which they called presence speakers if I remember correctly but no such decoding anymore.Understood. I opened one of the .ady-files with a hex-editor and found the string »customTargetCurvePoints« mentioned five times.
Correct. It is actually like a stereo setup, plus two additional heights and a sub, all of them gathering near my TV set. If that setup won’t basically qualify for EVO/Maestro calibration enhancements, than I have to live with that
My general intention here is to learn how to use the »EVO/Maestro thing« properly, because I like the concept of it – as far as I understand it.
It will time & volume align all speakers for your MLP, correctly cross them over with the sub and filter out bass peaks and some front sound stage will form for sure but physically there cannot be any kind of surround effect when there's nothing behind you.
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Sure, quite obviously. But that’s completely OK, as my main goal here is to get loud and clear sonic reproduction of any dialogues or TV anchors comments. Which is something that the Evo/Maestro calibrations I tried so far did not deliver at all.
That is why I believe that I either did something wrong with executing the script or that the whole »thing« has some basic flaws when it comes to deal with an AVR and its 4.1 speaker setup like mine.
Your setup is more accurately described as a 2.1.2 speaker setup. You have 2 bed layer speakers, a subwoofer, and 2 heights. 4.1 implies surrounds.
Question - leaving whether it makes any difference or not aside, please, for the love of all that is holy - my new SVS Ultra Evo speakers go to 40kHz or 50kHz or something. I've noticed every time I've generated filters that they look an upside down U (give or take), with a steep cliff at or just above 20 kHz. If I want to let everything above the range I can calibrate (23kHz with my M23R) essentially untouched, what is the easiest way to achieve that? I'm still using the 'Ultimate' method obviously as that is all that works with an M23R (or UMIK for that matter.)
I didn't understand your question. Is this about Nexus filters and you want to go full range?
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