I just looked up your KEF on the web and from the looks of it, they subjectively sound best with amps that have a moderate DF, so the AHB2 will probably show a better result in your setup.purifi is not good
What ? can you elaborate please?I just looked up your KEF on the web and from the looks of it, they subjectively sound best with amps that have a moderate DF, so the AHB2 will probably show a better result in your setup.
But therefore the purifi is not bad, but just does not fit to your speakers, ie there is a mismatch.
Makes no sense to me. I had the opportunity to drive R3s with some 620W/8R power amp... and thought these sounded "boring" all the same...The Kef are probably hard to drive and that explains why so many people find them boring.
cult warningOk, that's quite clear to me... First day of membership. Obvious trolling on several thread. Maybe you need someone to show you the door?
Just read the classic article by James Moir that I linked to. It compared amplifiers that were not nearly as good as the modern ones compared here, and even so, the quite distinguished panel could not tell them apart. And yes, I personally attended such a comparison, and it cured me forever. There have been plenty of such tests since, and as far as I know they have all reached the same conclusion.
Of course, this is not to say th
cured you from satan, ehheJust read the classic article by James Moir that I linked to. It compared amplifiers that were not nearly as good as the modern ones compared here, and even so, the quite distinguished panel could not tell them apart. And yes, I personally attended such a comparison, and it cured me forever. There have been plenty of such tests since, and as far as I know they have all reached the same conclusion.
Of course, this is not to say that the AHB2 is not a good amplifier.
I just looked up your KEF on the web and from the looks of it, they subjectively sound best with amps that have a moderate DF, so the AHB2 will probably show a better result in your setup.
But therefore the purifi is not bad, but just does not fit to your speakers, ie there is a mismatch.
listen to the kef with the ahb2 and then we can talk, until then this is uselessMakes no sense to me. I had the opportunity to drive R3s with some 620W/8R power amp... and thought these sounded "boring" all the same...
I also like to compare dacs that measure well. The differences in sound are sometimes huge. Super easy to tell some of the dacs apart. Is this also "not science" ? what crazy cult is this.
ban the guy that does not agree with me
I am very sensitive to microdynamics. Maybe you are not. And maybe you like the slow sound you have now
you are a cult follower pretending to be scientific, its always the same
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ban the guy that does not agree with me
The fact that Gueco and an another guy have a different opinion does not mean that Gueco is wrong. He could be wrong, the other guy could be wrong, or they could both be wrong. But maybe Gueco is not wrong.(for example, a double blind test confirms this) So you can't be sure it's "just placebo". Writing down that Gueco is definitely wrong is just as unsubstantiated as his or anyone's listening test. (I'm not saying Gueco is right, because I don't know, but I'm not sure he's wrong either)Because you need to be sure of the opposite first, the other day a guy here who have both power amps ( The purifi and the benchmark ahb2 ), listening his ahb2 vs purifi thinks the purifi was a lot better
There will be another day that a random guy will post this Power amp sounds so much better and alive than this '' insert a random power amp '' !. It's always the same boring things.
People always waste his time in placebo things.
If this guy wanted dynamics he should look at the weak slope in the sub-bass region
This is the R7, the floorstanding of R3. Their F3 it's at 60hz.
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Well, he even talk about the Purifi as a '' slow '' power amplifier. That's because I know it's placebo.The fact that Gueco and an another guy have a different opinion does not mean that Gueco is wrong. He could be wrong, the other guy could be wrong, or they could both be wrong. But maybe Gueco is not wrong.(for example, a double blind test confirms this) So you can't be sure it's "just placebo". Writing down that Gueco is definitely wrong is just as unsubstantiated as his or anyone's listening test. (I'm not saying Gueco is right, because I don't know, but I'm not sure he's wrong either)
I think it's no problem to write down the results of the listening test here on ASR. Even if it may not be provable. Everyone knows it is a subjective opinion.
Why are you sure there is no audible difference between the two amplifiers?
This is not about @Gueco being subjectively right or objectively wrong. I do not care much TBH. This is about some just-joined member with quite questionable claims calling everyone arguing a "cultist". That is unacceptable.The fact that Gueco and an another guy have a different opinion does not mean that Gueco is wrong.
I just looked up your KEF on the web and from the looks of it, they subjectively sound best with amps that have a moderate DF, so the AHB2 will probably show a better result in your setup.
But therefore the purifi is not bad, but just does not fit to your speakers, ie there is a mismatch.
Describing what you hear is not an easy task. He may not be good at describing what he hears. That doesn't mean there is no difference.Well, he even talk about the Purifi as a '' slow '' power amplifier. That's because I know it's placebo.
It's ridiculous.
Not mono but bridged. Just saying...This guy loves his AHB2's in mono, KEF Ref 3.
The problem is the conclusions that you make in the listening test, will provide very wrong future data in future conclusionsDescribing what you hear is not an easy task. He may not be good at describing what he hears. That doesn't mean there is no difference.
(I don't want to defend him, because afterwards he made some not very nice statements, which will be judged by the moderators.)
Oh With DF are you only talking about Damping factor, oh yeah the purifi have a lot of damping factor and the ahb2 too, there is no problem.The topic is very complex, as I have linked before, and this seems to describe it best (unfortunately in german, but you can start the translator):
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No. I couldn't. But I probably couldn't say why there shouldn't be a difference.could you tell me why the Purifi would be so bad with them, vs the AHB2?