What do floor standers really bring to the table?

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

A Kef R7 I guess? If so the coaxial tweeter/mid driver (Uni-Q) probably means you don't have too much to worry about I'd have thought?

Is not a problem at all for me, maybe in the future im going to buy a '' GAS LIFT - EXTRA-SHORT(-5 cm) '' for my sit

 

[JWAmerica]

because the listening height it fixed?

The average couch seat height is 17-18". Listener height will be a factor, but I think most floorstanders have their tweeters around 36" up so they're pretty much where you'd want them to be. Might be an issue for giants sitting in office chairs.

 

[Chromatischism]

personaly I never understood that feelling bass thing. you don't feel bass unless it's a havy roommode shaking your floor.

Not a room mode, it's the resonant frequency of the material in question.

 

[dasdoing]

Not a room mode, it's the resonant frequency of the material in question.

something must be vibrating for you to feel it

 

[Chromatischism]

something must be vibrating for you to feel it

Correct. A wooden subfloor has a resonant frequency in that range. Or at least, in the last couple of places I've lived that has been the case.

In fact I can activate it quite strongly with the Hans Zimmer track 2049 from the Bladerunner 2049 soundtrack.

 

[Ultrasonic]

I can throw in a 10Hz sine wave and stop to hear it when putting my fingers in my ears

Are you certain it's not higher frequency distortion that you're hearing?

 

[JWAmerica]

You can't put them in the vast majority of floorstanding speakers for sale either .

Every day we stray further from god.

 

[abdo123]

personaly I never understood that feelling bass thing. you don't feel bass unless it's a havy roommode shaking your floor. I can throw in a 10Hz sine wave and stop to hear it when putting my fingers in my ears

you're not listening to the correct material then. listen to the track below and turn it up a bit.

 

[dasdoing]

Are you certain it's not higher frequency distortion that you're hearing?

just try it out. my room has a huge bass boost, so until 9Hz-ish I have clean frequencies

 

[dasdoing]

you're not listening to the correct material then. listen to the track below and turn it up a bit.

it sure vibrates my seat, but probably at 50Hz-ish where my first room mode is. again, 10Hz doesn't vibrate anything here

 

[Chromatischism]

Right at the 2:00 mark of the first track your chair should shake. If not, not enough subs, or you're on something hard like concrete.

Blade Runner 2049 (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)

Hans Zimmer - album - 2017 - 24 songs

deezer.page.link

 

[abdo123]

it sure vibrates my seat, but probably at 50Hz-ish where my first room mode is. again, 10Hz doesn't vibrate anything here

you said sub-bass gives you no physical impact at all though, nothing about 10Hz on its own.

 

[dasdoing]

I once had my sub right behind my couch. that sure vibrated my ass hahahhahah

 

[abdo123]

but probably at 50Hz-ish where my first room mode is.

You must really know your room

 

[dasdoing]

Right at the 2:00 mark of the first track your chair should shake. If not, not enough subs, or you're on something hard like concrete.

Blade Runner 2049 (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)

Hans Zimmer - album - 2017 - 24 songs

deezer.page.link

here it vibrates around 2:09 (Spotify)...and again it's a relativly high frequency I am feeling

 

[dasdoing]

You must really know your room

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I hate modes. once you hear them, you can't unhear them.

 

[Pdxwayne]

My bookshelf currently retails for $7500. The next step up, the smallest floor standers cost $12000 a pair. So, bookshelf plus stands is significantly cheaper.

Add a pair of the top of the line 10" subs from same company, total retail is $11K. Still cheaper.

 

[dasdoing]

I suspect that room modes make things vibrate in their respective frequency?
that's why you can't EQ them, only make them a little less anoying.
but if it is felt like someting positive (feeling the bass), it might be something wanted for most. personaly it anoys me cause it only happens at specific frequencies. and my room is heavily treated with a lot of material on the backwall

 

[Chromatischism]

I think I'm at just under $5k with my Buchardts and Rythmiks. That's not including supporting equipment. To think what else I could have done with the money! But, they bring me much enjoyment.

 

[Chromatischism]

here it vibrates around 2:09 (Spotify)...and again it's a relativly high frequency I am feeling

In my case, the vibrations at 2:00 start when the bass roll reaches 25 Hz. It rolls through the walls, floor, everything. The room stops shaking below 15 Hz here.

At 2:09 and beyond, the energy is at 35 and 70 Hz:

That is the bass that you can feel directly.