This topic is starting to heat up. This whole section of the forum is all about measurements. Perhaps Amir can do some on this DAC similar to what was posted by the author of HQP for the Pro-ject S2 dac (PCM vs DSD).
Many people are choosing this product over lower cost models that measure "good enough" where many claim you can't hear a difference between the better measuring device and the not as good device. Looks like many on this forum strive to get the best measuring device for their money (and I guess hope it sounds good too - or have blind faith that if it measures well then it will sound good too).
Is it not in the spirit of this forum to find out any scientific performance difference between the ways in which a product can function (ie 44.1khz PCM vs upsampled DSD512).
It seems members get upset if DSD512 measures better at the outputs. Why? Because you believe it's not possible for a DAC chip to perform differently when fed different input signals? If 44.1khz pcm or DSD512 measures better then at least we know. No difference between measuring USB vs SPDIF or measuring different power supplies (LPS, Switcher, USB). All these things can impact performance and no matter how small the difference knowing allows us to make informed decisions on which products to choose and which ways we choose to use them.
I welcome the dialog and hope Amir can find some time in the backlog of measurements of products to do a quick run down between 44.1khz PCM and DSD512. I'd like to see it on the D50. But we already have some data of the Pro-ject S2 so confirming or disputing the posted data there would be great.
Regardless of the outcomes we all have the right to use our products how we choose. So no one should get mad at you on the internet if you want to send your 44.1khz pcm direct or upsampled DSD512 to your DAC. If you find yourself telling others what they should do without at least backing it up with some measurements then you are probably in the wrong.
Many people are choosing this product over lower cost models that measure "good enough" where many claim you can't hear a difference between the better measuring device and the not as good device. Looks like many on this forum strive to get the best measuring device for their money (and I guess hope it sounds good too - or have blind faith that if it measures well then it will sound good too).
Is it not in the spirit of this forum to find out any scientific performance difference between the ways in which a product can function (ie 44.1khz PCM vs upsampled DSD512).
It seems members get upset if DSD512 measures better at the outputs. Why? Because you believe it's not possible for a DAC chip to perform differently when fed different input signals? If 44.1khz pcm or DSD512 measures better then at least we know. No difference between measuring USB vs SPDIF or measuring different power supplies (LPS, Switcher, USB). All these things can impact performance and no matter how small the difference knowing allows us to make informed decisions on which products to choose and which ways we choose to use them.
I welcome the dialog and hope Amir can find some time in the backlog of measurements of products to do a quick run down between 44.1khz PCM and DSD512. I'd like to see it on the D50. But we already have some data of the Pro-ject S2 so confirming or disputing the posted data there would be great.
Regardless of the outcomes we all have the right to use our products how we choose. So no one should get mad at you on the internet if you want to send your 44.1khz pcm direct or upsampled DSD512 to your DAC. If you find yourself telling others what they should do without at least backing it up with some measurements then you are probably in the wrong.