Is ICONOCLAST cable a "better" cable?

[Cuniberti]

Do audio cables matter? | Galen Gareis formerly of Belden Wire

Former Belden Wire Designer Galen Gareis explains how cables need to meet certain standards and the design parameters around them. He also speaks about the actual science and the subjective side within HiFi audio. After many years of a business relationship with Blue Jeans Cable, he now leads the ICONOCLAST cable line.
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[Deleted member 2944]

Just another guy advertising his super-expensive cables. This is so passe' now.
I suggest for everyone to NOT watch this interview before buying cable. You'll save money, and 74 minutes of your time.

Dave.

 

[Koeitje]

Those prices.....hahaha

 

[GDK]

the actual science

 

[Cuniberti]

Just another guy advertising his super-expensive cables. This is so passe' now.
I suggest for everyone to NOT watch this interview before buying cable. You'll save money, and 74 minutes of your time.

Dave.

Blue Jeans Cable is NOT expensive.

 

[HiFidFan]

All else aside, at least the specs are very good

I wonder what the AWG equivalent is

 

[mhardy6647]

"formerl Belden wire designer"...

<the following is offered strictly as satire!>

They laughed at me at Belden Cable and Wire! Fools!! I shall crush them like eggshells!!! Hahahahahhaahhhhahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

ahem.

Just had to get that out of my system.

So here's the way, IMO, this shakes out.

Blue Jeans: straightforward and inexpensive; good value products
Belden: straightforward and great quality; great value products
Iconoclast: (see my quote above)

Just another guy advertising his super-expensive cables. This is so passe' now.
I suggest for everyone to NOT watch this interview before buying cable. You'll save money, and 74 minutes of your time.

Dave.

74 minutes?!? Did he record it to a CD?

Blue Jeans Cable is NOT expensive.

Yeah, but the Iconoclast products are.

Here, calculate a price or two for yourself: https://www.iconoclastcable.com/speaker/index.htm

 

[Cuniberti]

Those prices.....hahaha

The interview is more of a promotion for Blue Jeans Cable that is not expensive. That is why I posted it. Even he says most people can't hear the difference from his Iconoclast cable.

 

[HiFidFan]

Blue Jeans Cable is NOT expensive.

8ft pair of Iconoclast speaker cable (OFC) = $1,410 on the BJC website

Of course 'expensive' is relative

Aside from Iconoclast, most agree that BJC is very good value cables.

 

[Cuniberti]

You didn't watch the video did you? just trolling me...lol

 

[Cuniberti]

8ft pair of Iconoclast speaker cable (OFC) = $1,410 on the BJC website

Of course 'expensive' is relative

If you watch the video you will hear him make the argument AGAINST expensive cable. Even his own, that is why I posted it.

 

[mhardy6647]

Even he says most people can't hear the difference from his Iconoclast cable.

Ahh, the emporer's new clothes.

I'm not most people, I'm an audiophile -- of course I can hear the difference! Here! Here's my wallet, take it all, TAKE IT ALL!!!

I watched the genesis of Iconoclast starting about a year ago, so I think I understand their game pretty well.
https://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m....score&sortOrder=DESC&sortRank=Forum&forum=ALL

 

[Cuniberti]

Ahh, the emporer's new clothes.

You can buy a pair of his BAV interconnects for $160.00, is that too much?

 

[HiFidFan]

The question is, who are these minority of people that can tell the difference? I mean, is there a test they take that shows they can hear better cables?

 

[mhardy6647]

The question is, who are these minority of people that can tell the difference? I mean, is there a test they take that shows they can hear better cables?

I am sure Harman's working on that in their Skunkworks.

 

[Cuniberti]

All else aside, at least the specs are very good

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I wonder what the AWG equivalent is

He explains all of that. Do yourself a favor and watch the damn thing.

 

[Cuniberti]

The question is, who are these minority of people that can tell the difference? I mean, is there a test they take that shows they can hear better cables?

Watch the video, he explains all that.

 

[HiFidFan]

He explains all of that. Do yourself a favor and watch the damn thing.

I skipped through it honestly. I don't have 74 minutes to watch the whole thing. Can you post here what he claims the equivalent AWG is? Would be appreciated.

 

[mhardy6647]

Are you on the Iconoclast payroll @Cuniberti or are you a satisified customer, EDIT, or did was it something else that brought you to their video and, subsequently, this forum?
It's not clear from your original post -- and, given the enthusiasm of your responses, I think it would be good to know.
Thanks!

 

[Koeitje]

Blue Jeans Cable is NOT expensive.

I agree, but this guys new brand is. BJC were his customers when he was at Belden.

https://www.iconoclastcable.com/rca/index.htm

You can buy a pair of his BAV interconnects for $160.00, is that too much?

Yes, because I got a pair for Star Quad XLR cables for not even a quarter of the price.

The interview is more of a promotion for Blue Jeans Cable that is not expensive. That is why I posted it. Even he says most people can't hear the difference from his Iconoclast cable.

I can believe that, depends on how big the placebo effect is.