Vini darko
Major Contributor
I wonder how much the half life of facts applies here
- I just make a personal statement : I like it better.
Totally irrational.
I know.
I don't think anybody here cares whether you, or anybody else, likes some bit of kit which is less accurate than another.Hi,
That a damn good question...
But that assumes the irrational can be explained. And if it is rational then there simply is no explanation for it.
Like : I know my DAC/AMP A (or whatever else) has lesser measurements than this DAC/AMP B.
Still, when I am listening to the lesser one (that would be A), I personnally and subjectively prefer what I hear coming out of that more than what I hear coming out o fhte scientifically better one (B).
I am biased and all... But I of course
- I do not deny that the other one is objectively better (and that, as such, I SHOULD like it better) ;
- I just make a personal statement : I like it better.
Totally irrational.
I know.
I am aware of my own weakness :-(
This is the part I don't understand. If you know your reasons are subjective, personal and irrational, especially the last, why would you still go with them?
S.
People will pay good money for crap cars simply because it is available in a certain select colour. This is in spite of there being objectively far better vehicles to choose from maybe even for less money.
Hi,
That a damn good question...
But that assumes the irrational can be explained. And if it is rational then there simply is no explanation for it.
Like : I know my DAC/AMP A (or whatever else) has lesser measurements than this DAC/AMP B.
Still, when I am listening to the lesser one (that would be A), I personnally and subjectively prefer what I hear coming out of that more than what I hear coming out o fhte scientifically better one (B).
I am biased and all... But I of course
- I do not deny that the other one is objectively better (and that, as such, I SHOULD like it better) ;
- I just make a personal statement : I like it better.
Totally irrational.
I know.
I am aware of my own weakness :-(
I completely agree. In many ways it's a battle over nothing. We all want people to enjoy the things that they enjoy.That's not irrational, and that's not what's going to get anyone riled up.
Science doesn't require you to prefer a better engineered device. I think that's part of the confusion... Nobody really cares what anyone else personally prefers.
I remember my youthful days after getting my 1st car. It was a manual gear type of car and I couldn't imagined getting an automatic. After I married, my wife persuaded me to get an automatic. That was 20 plus years ago and we've been driving automatic ever since. Talk about WAFI choose to drive a car with a manual transmission. I know without a doubt that the slick DCT available is better in pretty much every measurable respect.
I just like driving my stick-shift a lot better. That's not irrational... Just a personal choice
I do not deny that the other one is objectively better (and that, as such, I SHOULD like it better)
It's good that you are totally honest. But without a blind test you don't even know if you prefer the lesser one. Suppose you did a blind test and just could not tell them apart. Would you still tell yourself that you prefer it? Isn't that like preferring one kettle for boiling water more quickly, measuring it, seeing that it boils at the same speed as the old kettle but continuing to say that it boils more quickly? Sure, it looks nicer, has a "stay hot" button. Preferring it for those reasons (features, aesthetics) makes total sense. But continuing to prefer it for speed reasons when it's not faster...hmmm... (This isn't meant as a criticism, by the way!)
Hi,
Will probably be mocked for this, but yes. Aethitics of a product does indeed matter to me.
And I can really accept that the look may have an influence on what I think I hear.
So far, I've lived with it. And I'll continue to do so.
What I've learned when coming here.
Before I buy, I check if the product has no obvious flaws.
But if it hasn't I take the one that I find looking better.
Or the one that sports features I need or would like to have.
Regards.
I guess you missed my point about the difference between opinions and ideas on one hand and factually incorrect claims on the other?
Hi,
Will probably be mocked for this, but yes. Aethitics of a product does indeed matter to me.
And I can really accept that the look may have an influence on what I think I hear.
So far, I've lived with it. And I'll continue to do so.
What I've learned when coming here.
Before I buy, I check if the product has no obvious flaws.
But if it hasn't I take the one that I find looking better.
Or the one that sports features I need or would like to have.
Regards.
These are very dangerous people.Unfortunately, some people have the misconception that their poorly informed and argued opinion has equal weight to a well-informed, well-argued one. Just because they believe, even demand, that their opinions should be valued that way.
Hi,
Will probably be mocked for this, but yes. Aethitics of a product does indeed matter to me.
And I can really accept that the look may have an influence on what I think I hear.
So far, I've lived with it. And I'll continue to do so.
What I've learned when coming here.
Before I buy, I check if the product has no obvious flaws.
But if it hasn't I take the one that I find looking better.
Or the one that sports features I need or would like to have.
Regards.
Despite the fact that many of them have sense enough to know that they should rely on their doctor's opinion regarding what ails them, not random person they meet on the Internet. (Or maybe I'm giving some of them too much credit?)
The modern mantra of all opinions being equally valid is to me the most dangerous aspect of social media etc.These are very dangerous people.
I'm not sure it's even a mantra. I just think some of the users have always behaved that way in real life and transported it onto social media. These are the equivalent of the pub loudmouth but no landlord to tell them to be quiet. Facebook etc just gave them a bigger pub to bore.The modern mantra of all opinions being equally valid is to me the most dangerous aspect of social media etc.
S.
I agree with @wasnotwasnotwas. It's fine to value aesthetics. And it's fine to let perception bias influence you to enjoy audio
Just don't let that bias start taking over and leading you away from the facts.