What I meant is that it doesn't matter where the port is located.@q3cpma the graphic is well and good for Genelec's because they are designed that way. Those speakers also have boundary eq built in. KEF recommends a minimum of 9" from the front wall. For Revel I could not find a minimum, but they recommend plugging the ports if the speaker is less than 61 CM from a wall other large object. Of course, if you high pass your mains a lot less energy is coming out of the ports.
It probably boils down to do you want a speaker from an English company which is made in China and has Scandinavian modern design or a speaker from an American subsidiary of a South Korean company where Toole and Olive used to work, is built in Indonesia, and has styling which is somewhat baroque. Is that simple enough?
The graph is showing common formant frequencies of trained singers practicing a western style. I quoted fundamental frequencies in my post. This is my expertise (and my day job) and I’m happy to continue this discussion elsewhere so as not to derail the thread if anyone is interested.
Please do so.The graph is showing common formant frequencies of trained singers practicing a western style. I quoted fundamental frequencies in my post. This is my expertise (and my day job) and I’m happy to continue this discussion elsewhere so as not to derail the thread if anyone is interested.
For me, choosing between them would come down to the room. Big room would favor the Revels, small room the Kefs. This is based on trying my R3's in the living room (part of a ~1000 sq ft open concept space) and finding them a bit on the dull side. They're wonderful speakers, but in this space I'd definitely want wider dispersion.
That's interesting. Here, the Revels sell for $5000 (CAD), the KEFs for $5400. But the latter are available from a number of local shops. This does not seem to be true for the Revels.My room is about 30m2 (322 sq ft). I think both should work fine.
More I read about these two, the less I see what the Revel would bring more than the kef (bearing in mind that they cost almost 1k euros more in Europe). I think the scale is beginning to tilt on the English manufacturer side.
That is a very interesting question. If there is any research on this, I haven't read it, and I've never heard it brought up by anyone in the context of that other thread. My guess is that you're right and a proper crossover will make this irrelevant.Thanks for sharing
So based on your knowledge, is a tweeter crossover frequency at 2.9kHz better than 2.1kHz? Or is it just not relevant enough to rule in average?
There is a lot of hand-waving around this. In the DIY community, you very frequently see people wanting to create a design that avoids a crossover 'in the critical midrange'. Lots of people chime in, and by the time the discussion is a few pages long, you have a 'critical midrange' that spans from 200Hz to 7kHz.That is a very interesting question. If there is any research on this, I haven't read it, and I've never heard it brought up by anyone in the context of that other thread. My guess is that you're right and a proper crossover will make this irrelevant.
For @Novak budget, I would rather consider the 936 or 948. Both are still way cheaper than the R7 in my experience (3200€ for R7s where you can get 936s/948s for 1500€ or less during every Summer Sales). But Aria range is 7 years old now and will probably be replaced soon.The Focal Aria 926 or the Chora 826 could also be an option.
For @Novak budget, I would rather consider the 936 or 948. Both are still way cheaper than the R7 in my experience (3200€ for R7s where you can get 936s/948s for 1500€ or less during every Summer Sales). But Aria range is 7 years old now and will probably be replaced soon.
The R7s are a good option: We know both R3 and R11 measure really well. Then, we have datas to assume the Kef R whitepaper is somewhat reliable:View attachment 61789
Revel are really expensive in EU, since there's not a lot (if almost none) distributors around here. For "1000€ less" as you say, I'd take the R7.
Yep. Paid last week, and I should be delivered within one week (or at least, I hope so).By the way, have you pulled the trigger on the R3?
Agreed. It's quite amusing to me now when you think about this that in a lot of 3 way speakers the bass driver is handling some of the vocal range, and if you have a sub and turn off your mains when playing something acapella there is still something coming out of the sub, but very little.There is a lot of hand-waving around this. In the DIY community, you very frequently see people wanting to create a design that avoids a crossover 'in the critical midrange'. Lots of people chime in, and by the time the discussion is a few pages long, you have a 'critical midrange' that spans from 200Hz to 7kHz.