They will come with time.
Not necessarily demonstrably false. It depends on how you want to separate the good from the bad brands. Schiit had a turning point thanks to some reviews on this site from what I understand. So it seems to have become a good brand.That's a broad blanket statement, and demonstrably false. Even in some "bad" brands there are decent items (Schiit for example). And some "good" brands have dogs once in a while (Topping has at least one "no" recommendation). So I will wait to see what each item individually tests, thanks.
One... This leaves speakers. If you have unlimited budget and want statement speakers, then we have no coverage of those. That is the only hole I see...
All it takes are people willing to box them up, accept the risk associated with shipping, and pay the shipping bill. As the price, size, and weight of the product goes up, the probability goes down.Sure, but I would like to see others tested, Mark Levinson, which I believe you own, for example. And honestly, I would like to see brands like McIntosh, Rotel, Naim, Audiolab, Bryston, etc.
Geddes et al did some research on what is important and what’s not, straight Sinad is not the most important mainlyPersonally, I've never liked the SINAD concept. To me, it is putting apples and oranges into a single bin and effectively ignoring the differences between the two.
Please, THD is THD. Noise is noise. They are different, and one of them being 'high' while the other is 'low' still equates to a 'poor' SINAD number. Why on earth is it too much effort to simply measure THD and graph that, and measure noise and graph that. To me that approach seems a lot less of a hassle than having to explain why the SINAD number is what it is.
The industry as a whole has equated "THD" with "THD+N" Because that is how the THD meters worked. Separating these now will cause nothing but confusion as people compare my "THD" number with "THD+N" number from others.Please, THD is THD. Noise is noise. They are different, and one of them being 'high' while the other is 'low' still equates to a 'poor' SINAD number.
The industry is just not used to “critical” reviews, and subjectivism and voodoo gadgets has overtaken the EE basis of the industryWe can sum up the Stereophile editorial thus. ,"We're telling you the truth, we are the authority because we say we are, anyone else is a part time pretender, we know what makes good sound, you should buy the products we review".
That's it in a nut shell just a bit of FUD and piss poor rhetoric based on self survival.
Just ignore it, you're all just giving them oxygen by talking about them.
The industry as a whole has equated "THD" with "THD+N" Because that is how the THD meters worked. Separating these now will cause nothing but confusion as people compare my "THD" number with "THD+N" number from others.
AVR's and AV processors in particular, are the weak leg compared to integrated stereos.If you were to put a system together, don't you think you can do so from what I have tested? And arrive at superb sounding one?
For a company whose representatives love to say that is engineer-driven such as Mac, I'd love to see if those words carry some real weight.Sure, but I would like to see others tested, Mark Levinson, which I believe you own, for example. And honestly, I would like to see brands like McIntosh, Rotel, Naim, Audiolab, Bryston, etc.
<me/ cocks an ear to his Denon AVR , which is ON but not yet playing music. And then some music comes on>AVR's and AV processors in particular, are the weak leg compared to integrated stereos.
But that's not because I haven't tested them. We have excellent coverage of them. The problem there is that those companies need to step up the engineering. We have no disadvantage there compared to any traditional publication.AVR's and AV processors in particular, are the weak leg compared to integrated stereos.
It is not your fault, of course, but for those of us that like multichannel, the landscape is not bad, but it could be a lot better.
That may change in the near future, and not in a small part, thanks to your work.
Compare the amount of good, clean, stereo amps on this site to the amount of good, clean AVR's.<me/ cocks an ear to his Denon AVR , which is ON but not yet playing music. And then some music comes on>
hmmm...I didn't/don't hear any THD or N
What should I be listening for?
Or is the 'weak leg' perhaps quite sufficiently sturdy enough, in typical practice?
My comment was answering to yours about the site having a nice amount of candidates to build a great system.But that's not because I haven't tested them. We have excellent coverage of them. The problem there is that those companies need to step up the engineering. We have no disadvantage there compared to any traditional publication.
I honestly didn't expect anybody to agree with my view, so its really a non-issue. These days distortion analyzers can measure pure THD, perhaps its too much to hope the industry would get with the program and adapt. I was never confused by the distinction between the two, but maybe I'm just ahead of my time.The industry as a whole has equated "THD" with "THD+N" Because that is how the THD meters worked. Separating these now will cause nothing but confusion as people compare my "THD" number with "THD+N" number from others.
Fortunately at the high-end of the SINAD spectrum, the problem you are talking about essentially doesn't exist. That SINAD is completely dominated by noise. Distortion in those products is routinely down to -130 dB or better. It is noise that brings it down to 120.
Compare the numbers reported to the likelihood of any artefacts of same being heard in normal listening.Compare the amount of good, clean, stereo amps on this site to the amount of good, clean AVR's.
Let's consider for a second that you want a Dirac-based AVR or AVP: not great options on very often, expensive products.
Unfortunately AP software can't do that in the dashboard. You have to use a different mode of operation to get that single value. Otherwise I would be more than happy to include it. Ditto for noise.These days distortion analyzers can measure pure THD, perhaps its too much to hope the industry would get with the program and adapt.
This is where I'm confused! Denon doesn't generate much interest/hype in the audiophile community. Frankly, their products are priced the same as your typical Yamaha/Cambridge Audio/Atoll/NAD/Arcam/Rega amps. I'm so lost.Compare the amount of good, clean, stereo amps on this site to the amount of good, clean AVR's.
Let's consider for a second that you want a Dirac-based AVR or AVP: not great options on very often, expensive products.
My comment was answering to yours about the site having a nice amount of candidates to build a great system.
I agree with that assertion in general, particularly in the part that matters most: speakers. For amps, that is also absolutely true: plenty to choose from mono to multichannel.
The weak part here in that are the AVP's; for AVR's, Denon is doing a fairly good job and shaming expensive products like NAD or Arcam (which is not good news, let's be honest). Hopefully more companies will adopt the procedures of Anthem in their AVM's, which start to get close to certified transparent.
So yes, even with the data at hand, the practicality is there: wait for better products if you can. Which is as functional as browsing for candidates to build your system.
Getting good, clean, efficient amp (or amps, for multichannel) is the easy part on both class D and class AB. The harder part is getting that clean signal on the processing side, both integrated (AVR) or not (AVP).This is where I'm confused! Denon doesn't generate much interest/hype in the audiophile community. Frankly, their products are priced the same as your typical Yamaha/Cambridge Audio/Atoll/NAD/Arcam/Rega amps. I'm so lost.
Are A/B amplifiers on the way out? I say this because I strongly believe that my cheapo 40€ Sure Tripath amp with a T2024 chip sounds better than the standard fare Yamaha RN402 (600€) amp I previously had. I'm using efficient OGY speakers. The Sure just doesn't have much power or bass. But the REL T5x solves that issue. I'm a Tripath believer now. Are other Texas Instruments chips similar? To be clear, I put a lot of attention on forward midrange and smooth treble. I'm not necessarily chasing neutral.
Anyways, what amp do you buy for about 500€!? There are 1000 options.
This is where I'm confused! Denon doesn't generate much interest/hype in the audiophile community. Frankly, their products are priced the same as your typical Yamaha/Cambridge Audio/Atoll/NAD/Arcam/Rega amps. I'm so lost.