from the 1st youtube video,Where did that graph come from? Looks overly smoothed.
A scale would be nice, too.Where did that graph come from? Looks overly smoothed.
So out if curiosity what level is the harmonic distortion from 400-600hrz in the rp150m?The only thing I didn't like about the 150m was the obvious distortion in the 400-600Hz region. The distortion was actually "pleasing" in that it warmed the sound a bit, but at the expense of robbing detail. Klipsch said they updated their drivers with lower distortion, so that's good to hear.
I can't remember the levels and didn't save my measurements, but they were notably higher than the rest of the range.So out if curiosity what level is the harmonic distortion from 400-600hrz in the rp150m?
I have never used that speaker just wondering what you found.
I tested the rp160m and that driver (same one as the 600m version 1) is really robust with really low distortion for the class. If it is even lower in the 600m v2 then wonderful but the 160m was already doing very well.
The other thing is high levels of HD at 500hrz are more likely to affect the sound of the upper mids. Not sure if that is typically warming. (1000hrz-1500hrz)
What might make them sound warm is HD from say 40-150hrz which you then hear as a potential thickening and additive (warming?)at 80-450hrz if the HD is 2nd & 3rd order.
I think Amir wants to avoid having to buy a bunch of new speakers... If someone sends it over, I wouldn't be surprised if he prioritized a newer speaker over an older one.From the in-room measurement it looks like the severe BBC dip is no longer present. Andrew and his wife put the 600M II on equal footing with the M16, so that's high praise (and they really praised the M16).
I had the RP-150M briefly and it measured very neutral, and I know the 500m has measured neutral elsewhere. Maybe Klipsch has decided to neutralize their 6 inch version. The only thing I didn't like about the 150m was the obvious distortion in the 400-600Hz region. The distortion was actually "pleasing" in that it warmed the sound a bit, but at the expense of robbing detail. Klipsch said they updated their drivers with lower distortion, so that's good to hear.
Hopefully someone sends these to Amir. I'm surprised Amir doesn't measure more new speakers, but maybe new speaker reviews don't result in the web traffic I'm assuming.
...and 10 dB less efficiency as stated in the spec sheet in the OPs initial posting. Far from a surprise though as physics limit what you can expect in SPL from a 6.5" driver with specified bass extension down to 44 Hz @ -3 dB.
I suppose I have had the same experience as @DSJRWhat music does Kef remove? Carcass blasts on them perfectly fine.
Probably they blast perfectly fine on those Klipsch too.
It sounds like you like a classic V shape equalization. And there´s nothing wrong about it, of course. To me, that sounds fatiguing, and I reckon it´s a weird thing on someone who consideres that subwoofers are never big enough.I suppose I have had the same experience as @DSJR
KEF makes great stuff that I appreciate in a lot of ways. I have just never felt like keeping a pair.
Rarely start "toe tapping+" when using the KEF stuff I have tried.
My GF described them as "reverse osmisis water". If you don't know RO water, it is very clean but stripped of all the mineral content that clean "mountain spring water", would contain. Kind of soulless I guess.
I found them(q150,q350, especially R3) to sound like great sounding speakers, rather than presenting great sound if that makes sense. Who knows. Subjective part of the hifi territory for sure.
No, no classic V shape.It sounds like you like a classic V shape equalization. And there´s nothing wrong about it, of course. To me, that sounds fatiguing, and I reckon it´s a weird thing on someone who consideres that subwoofers are never big enough.
On the other hand, I can confirm that the mentioned Carcass never sounded better than in a pair of Blades.
Sure.Also what sounds great or not unfortunately still depends a lot on audio's circle of confusion. In this case I also recommend especially people who don't use or want to use EQ to just buy the loudspeakers which work best with their preferences, most listened recordings and rooms/placements. For the others Toole's recommendation to get neutral speakers and then use EQ/tone controls to adapt them if needed to different recordings.