Your understanding is correct and for that reason, the research uses consistent levels across experiments. The problem is that we don't listen at the same volume, nor our content is normalized to the same. So no good solution exists for the problem.Is my understanding flawed? Can something be done to make sure the levels are matched? Is it already done?
It's a noticeable upgrade for me. The HD-598 was always too "wooly" and laid back for me, though I didn't hate them. The 560s is much more open and clean sounding, but I need a filter to make the top end bump tolerable.This sounds like a headphone I might like.
An old favorite of mine was the HD-598 (non SE), but it lacked low bass and even more so than the HD-650.
Has anyone compared this to the HD-598?
I imagine it's a side-grade most likely.
My teenage son has grown up with the 598 and worn out two pairs. Most comfortable headphone I have ever experienced.This sounds like a headphone I might like.
An old favorite of mine was the HD-598 (non SE), but it lacked low bass and even more so than the HD-650.
Has anyone compared this to the HD-598?
I imagine it's a side-grade most likely.
I do have the newest HD-650, but i've always found it very slightly muffled sounding and closed in (more so than the HD-598).
Current favorites are the bass modded AKG Q701 and DT-990 Pro.
Some weird mix of the HD-650 and Q701 is like my perfect headphone.
I have to agree. Sometimes I know I should use the 58X because of the song/album, but I keep using the 598 just because of the comfort.My teenage son has grown up with the 598 and worn out two pairs. Most comfortable headphone I have ever experienced.
Thanks! How closely are the research experiments and your testing matched (in terms of volume)? What level is that (I can see that it is at approximately 100dBSPL from the plot, which seems quite high, but maybe I am not interpreting it correctly in terms of perception of volume relative to listening to loudspeakers at the same 100dB level)? Is there any statistical analysis of personal preferences across subjects in perceptual experiments? It would make sense to me if they were conducted in generally popular conditions. I very much appreciate your sharing of the information!Your understanding is correct and for that reason, the research uses consistent levels across experiments. The problem is that we don't listen at the same volume, nor our content is normalized to the same. So no good solution exists for the problem.
I don’t know where you’ve been reading where the cable wasn’t mentioned. I frequently saw people criticising the cable. For your information hifiman provide a much better cable nowI've also read many hyped review, but the real listening is a different story. Many customer dont have too much experience so they praise basically everything that not terrible and they are also biased toward their stuff. Big audio sites and youtubers are usually sponsored by audio companies, even a forum like Headfi is full with paid "user reviews".
Btw i forgot to mention, that the HE400se cable are just one of the worst garbage ever produced, it is so microphonic, that literally ruins every music, even if u just slightly moving your head. Thats another thing that noone mentions. Some guy mentioning that the cable is mediocre, but that is really far from the horroristic reality.
Seems a little close minded, companies can change and improve. Sennheiser produce a lot of junk alsoEvery set of Hifiman headphones I purchased had manufacturing flaws and had to be returned. Conversely, I’ve never had to return a Sennheiser at any price point. That alone would cause me to always recommend Sennheiser over Hifiman.
Well, in my experience Hifiman has not “changed and improved”. All of these defective headphones (4 sets) were purchased within the last 12 months. If you do a little research I think you’ll find poor QC is a long-standing and fairly widespread issue with Hifiman.Seems a little close minded, companies can change and improve. Sennheiser produce a lot of junk also
Look at some of the closed back headphones: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/HeadphoneReview/Can we discuss the giant elephant in the room which is the 50Hz roll-off with almost every headphone measured on the HATS?
Has there been any meaningful discussions about this? It's really not exclusive to Amir's measurements at all.
Well, in my experience Hifiman has not “changed and improved”. All of these defective headphones (4 sets) were purchased within the last 12 months. If you do a little research I think you’ll find poor QC is a long-standing and fairly widespread issue with Hifiman.
Like I said, do a little research.A sample size of 4… very scientific
Can we discuss the giant elephant in the room which is the 50Hz roll-off with almost every headphone measured on the HATS?
Has there been any meaningful discussions about this? It's really not exclusive to Amir's measurements at all.