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Sennheiser HD560S Review (Headphone)

Rate this headphone:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 29 5.7%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 189 37.4%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 282 55.8%

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    505
How can I find out the production date of the 560 by the serial number?
I'd try messaging over the "New Version" thread too. I don't know the answer to your question. I'm kind of expecting that this will be the sort of thing solderdude will know. I mean you might end up getting told that all serial numbers after roughly XXXXXX would be the New Version headphone for instance.
 
How to distinguish refurbished 560 from new ones?
Well signs or wear or malfunction but generally I've never encountered receiving a refurbished one when ordering "new" from Sennheiser.

Hifiman is a completely different story though. I really wanted to get a Sundara "new" and half of my ordered 5 pairs were definitely returns repacked.
 
@Paolo @solderdude Thanks for all the suggestion you have in this thread: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/headphone-dac-amp-combo.28265/page-3
I brought Sundara a couple of years back. I am driving this directly out of MacBook Pro headphone jack and it sounds already great. Sometimes I use an Apple USB-C dongle as well.

And as suggested by @Paolo I brought HD560s but for my son for his games last week. Though my son preferred a Sony one for better compatibility with his PS5, when I just tested HD560s, I loved it so much and kept it for myself as an other alternative to listen to a different sound.

The HD560s sounds great but I still have a problem with the treble peak. It is hurting my ears and goes away only when I do not put on HD560s for an hour or so. I am using Oratory 1990 EQ as suggested by @Robbo99999 in this thread via Sound source EQ on my Mac. I have also tried EqualizerAPO EQ as well but the bass is too much making it a bit dark. I like the Oratory one better than amirm's EQ. The downside of Oratory is that its treble is more than Amirm.

Is there any other suggestion? I saw somewhere in this thread that @solderdude has own filters for HD560s. Can you please share it? I do not want to really return HD560s as I love its detail, soundstage, mids, bass and is fun listening to them. But I am somehow trying to get the treble peak off. Or will the treble peak go off when the clamp force of
H560s gets better in some days of use.

Or worse case, should I return HD560s and go for 650 which is another 100 euros more. The issue with that is I have only BTR5 and no dedicated desktop amp.

Appreciate your help and guidance!
 
@Paolo @solderdude Thanks for all the suggestion you have in this thread: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/headphone-dac-amp-combo.28265/page-3
I brought Sundara a couple of years back. I am driving this directly out of MacBook Pro headphone jack and it sounds already great. Sometimes I use an Apple USB-C dongle as well.

And as suggested by @Paolo I brought HD560s but for my son for his games last week. Though my son preferred a Sony one for better compatibility with his PS5, when I just tested HD560s, I loved it so much and kept it for myself as an other alternative to listen to a different sound.

The HD560s sounds great but I still have a problem with the treble peak. It is hurting my ears and goes away only when I do not put on HD560s for an hour or so. I am using Oratory 1990 EQ as suggested by @Robbo99999 in this thread via Sound source EQ on my Mac. I have also tried EqualizerAPO EQ as well but the bass is too much making it a bit dark. I like the Oratory one better than amirm's EQ. The downside of Oratory is that its treble is more than Amirm.

Is there any other suggestion? I saw somewhere in this thread that @solderdude has own filters for HD560s. Can you please share it? I do not want to really return HD560s as I love its detail, soundstage, mids, bass and is fun listening to them. But I am somehow trying to get the treble peak off. Or will the treble peak go off when the clamp force of
H560s gets better in some days of use.

Or worse case, should I return HD560s and go for 650 which is another 100 euros more. The issue with that is I have only BTR5 and no dedicated desktop amp.

Appreciate your help and guidance!
Do you have a HD560S with a 1.28m cable or 3m cable ?
 
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Ah.. sorry my bad.
should have said 1.8m vs 3m... so you have the newer version (the 3m versions aren't sold anywhere, except 2nd hand)
It basically needs to have the area between 4kHz and 7kHz lowered about 2 or 3 dB to get rid of the slight brightness it still has. With the earlier ones (3m cable) this was a bit more.

I have filters in all the HD560S I own(ed) and is all I need myself.
Such a filter can also be external and allows one to lower the treble peak when EQ is not an option or not available.
The HD560S is a good and fairly affordable headphone (clamping force is a bit high).

When you lower that region in the source you connect to the FiiO BTR5 is that issue gone ?
 
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Ah.. sorry my bad.
should have said 1.8m vs 3m... so you have the newer version (the 3m versions aren't sold anywhere, except 2nd hand)
It basically needs to have the area between 4kHz and 7kHz lowered about 2 or 3 dB to get rid of the slight brightness it still has. With the earlier ones (3m cable) this was a bit more.

I have filters in all the HD560S I own(ed) and is all I need myself.
Such a filter can also be external and allows one to lower the treble peak when EQ is not an option or not available.
The HD560S is a good and fairly affordable headphone (clamping force is a bit high).

When you lower that region in the source you connect to the FiiO BTR5 is that issue gone ?
No worries :-). I am not using the EQ of BTR5. Am not sure how I can download the app in Mac and also not sure if the EQ is accessible via usb. Hence never used EQ...I am currently using EQ directly in Mac via SoundSource. I tried these filters...
 

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When you don't want or prefer not to use EQ and are happy with the sound, except for the brightness it has a filter can be an option if you just want to use it and plug it in any headphone jack.

To check if this could be an option I suggest to just filter that area a little and see if that works for you.
 
@Paolo @solderdude Thanks for all the suggestion you have in this thread: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/headphone-dac-amp-combo.28265/page-3
I brought Sundara a couple of years back. I am driving this directly out of MacBook Pro headphone jack and it sounds already great. Sometimes I use an Apple USB-C dongle as well.

And as suggested by @Paolo I brought HD560s but for my son for his games last week. Though my son preferred a Sony one for better compatibility with his PS5, when I just tested HD560s, I loved it so much and kept it for myself as an other alternative to listen to a different sound.

The HD560s sounds great but I still have a problem with the treble peak. It is hurting my ears and goes away only when I do not put on HD560s for an hour or so. I am using Oratory 1990 EQ as suggested by @Robbo99999 in this thread via Sound source EQ on my Mac. I have also tried EqualizerAPO EQ as well but the bass is too much making it a bit dark. I like the Oratory one better than amirm's EQ. The downside of Oratory is that its treble is more than Amirm.

Is there any other suggestion? I saw somewhere in this thread that @solderdude has own filters for HD560s. Can you please share it? I do not want to really return HD560s as I love its detail, soundstage, mids, bass and is fun listening to them. But I am somehow trying to get the treble peak off. Or will the treble peak go off when the clamp force of
H560s gets better in some days of use.

Or worse case, should I return HD560s and go for 650 which is another 100 euros more. The issue with that is I have only BTR5 and no dedicated desktop amp.

Appreciate your help and guidance!
I agree with what solderdude suggested to you re HD560s. The only place that really could be causing treble issues with you on the New Version is between 4-5.5kHz, so that would be the area to reduce by a dB or two until it sounds right. For me though the New Version HD560s is absolutely fine at stock with no issues, it's very balanced for me, but for me does improve to some degree with an EQ to Harman - not Oratory's because I've already mentioned in this thread that the New Version is different......but you could try the one at this post:
4-5kHz is reduced a little there, but I've also increased the 7kHz & 2kHz area, and of course increased the bass just a little.
 
but you could try the one at this post
Great. I have now applied. This sounds great already. I liked your EQs better than EqualizerAPO which is very bass heavy and loosing some mid bass clarity. What is the Preamp level you would suggest? I am still using -5.4 dB from Oratory. At the end, this is how the EQ looks like. Can you please confirm? Tomorrow, I will do long hearing sessions to see if my ear hurts.

Preamp: -5.4 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 4.10 dB Q 0.5
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 160 Hz Gain -1.3 dB Q 1.0
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1173 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 2.0
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1813 Hz Gain 2.8 dB Q 2.0
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 3320 Hz Gain -2.1 dB Q 3.5
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 3870 Hz Gain 3.6 dB Q 2.0
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 4520 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 3.0
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5280 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 3.0
Filter 9: ON PK FC 6800 Hz Gain 4.1 dB Q 2.0
Filter 10: OFF HS FC 10000 Hz Gain 4.1 dB Q 2.0
 
Great. I have now applied. This sounds great already. I liked your EQs better than EqualizerAPO which is very bass heavy and loosing some mid bass clarity. What is the Preamp level you would suggest? I am still using -5.4 dB from Oratory. At the end, this is how the EQ looks like. Can you please confirm? Tomorrow, I will do long hearing sessions to see if my ear hurts.

Preamp: -5.4 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 4.10 dB Q 0.5
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 160 Hz Gain -1.3 dB Q 1.0
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1173 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 2.0
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1813 Hz Gain 2.8 dB Q 2.0
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 3320 Hz Gain -2.1 dB Q 3.5
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 3870 Hz Gain 3.6 dB Q 2.0
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 4520 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 3.0
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5280 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 3.0
Filter 9: ON PK FC 6800 Hz Gain 4.1 dB Q 2.0
Filter 10: OFF HS FC 10000 Hz Gain 4.1 dB Q 2.0
I checked those filters against what I posted, just to be sure you'd inputted them correctly, and yes that's correct, but of course your Filter#10 is deactivated which it should be because I didn't use a High Shelf Filter in my EQ. You'd be fine to use just a -4.1dB Negative Preamp with this EQ, but of course the -5.4dB you're currently using is fine and gives you additional overhead to counter intersample overs (which is another topic), but you can use -4.1dB Negative Preamp if you want.
 
I checked those filters against what I posted, just to be sure you'd inputted them correctly, and yes that's correct, but of course your Filter#10 is deactivated which it should be because I didn't use a High Shelf Filter in my EQ. You'd be fine to use just a -4.1dB Negative Preamp with this EQ, but of course the -5.4dB you're currently using is fine and gives you additional overhead to counter intersample overs (which is another topic), but you can use -4.1dB Negative Preamp if you want.
Thanks again! I will try with -4.1 dB Negative Preamp as well. By the way, I listened to almost 2 hours yesterday night with your EQ settings and it did not hurt my ears at all. The sound quality was so good that I did not notice the time at all and just wanted to continue listening music. Was pure enjoyment. I will continue further today and report.
 
I checked those filters against what I posted, just to be sure you'd inputted them correctly, and yes that's correct, but of course your Filter#10 is deactivated which it should be because I didn't use a High Shelf Filter in my EQ. You'd be fine to use just a -4.1dB Negative Preamp with this EQ, but of course the -5.4dB you're currently using is fine and gives you additional overhead to counter intersample overs (which is another topic), but you can use -4.1dB Negative Preamp if you want.
I tried with preamp -4.1 Negative Preamp. Somehow I experienced fatigue..Will go back to -5.4 dB and report.
 
I tried with preamp -4.1 Negative Preamp. Somehow I experienced fatigue..Will go back to -5.4 dB and report.
Ah, ok. It's probably not the preamp, it's probably still that peak at 5kHz and maybe also because I boosted 7-8kHz area. So what I advise is you put in one more filter than you use to experiment with & manipulate that existing EQ, put in a Peak Filter at 5.5kHz, with Q1, and then put in say -1dB into that should reduce both the 5kHz peak but also the 7-8kHz area I boosted. So you'd just experiment with -1dB, or -2dB, try -3dB on that new 5.5kHz Q1 filter that you'd add. Actually, try with -3dB first just to check if it's the right area to reduce, in other words to check you definitely don't get fatigue after doing that......then you'd slowly increase that filter from -3dB to -2dB (& upwards) to see if you still don't get fatigue, because you don't want to be reducing areas more than you have to.
 
Guys, am I moving in the right direction? I only have this equalizer
 

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I have an old 560s with a long cable, Refurbished
Also, the high frequencies seemed too harsh, I heard on YouTube that this model works well with tube-based equipment?
 
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Guys, am I moving in the right direction? I only have this equalizer
AIMP's built-in GEQ seems pretty useless for precise Headphone EQ:
AIMP GEQ Response.png Screenshot 2024-06-20 232736.png

The response just does not adhere to any standards, so it's impossible to calculate EQ settings.

It's probably fine for EQing by ear, but that's about it.

AIMP doesn't support VST3 plugins, so you can't even add something like Mathaudio Headphone EQ to it to get proper PEQ.

I would suggest you disable AIMP's Equalizer and use Equalizer APO instead. That way, you get proper PEQ and can import presets from all over the web.
 
SergeiF, if you can't use a parametric eq on your device here is the settings for graphic eq, though you have to be able to enter values manually, I'm not sure you can do that very well by eye

You can try a free MathAudio Headphone EQ parametric eq plugin in foobar2000.
Also take in mind, that these EQ settings were made for ear pads in mint condition, so if yours are quite old, you may not like the sound after EQ
 
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