Eggs Ackley
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No it's not. This is...This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen!
No it's not. This is...This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen!
Those things remind me of the giant red sea worms that live near volcanic vents on the ocean floorNo it's not. This is...
I think they require EQ in Amirs room because it is not designed for that kind of room. I assume the designs is meant to be close to the wall and very reflective room. I do believe that this speaker is very specific for its environment and when that doesnt match up it will preform (far) less than a stardard correct textbook design.Your point misses a key element: these speakers *require* EQ to sound better than the M106. DSP and equalization are more accessible than ever, and I use them in every system of mine, but how many average consumers can say the same? Most buyers of these speakers will be stuck with terribly aberrant sound.
Recommended cables for the TuneTotView attachment 174000
Keep in mind the Apple Watch is spying on everything you do and don't think for a second it is not. How convenient for Apple that many folks can afford one.And on top, they are nowhere near as precise as Apple Watch. Figure this.
The curtain is touching the cable that is why the sound is muffled.No it's not. This is...
Because at the frequency zone the due to the height of the woofer from the floor and likely also the side and front wall there are usually huge cancellations.Exactly that suprised me. Only very first time I have seen such review. How a speaker having an extremely bad peak at as high as 120hz can sound even subjectively good ?
”Wouldn’t life be boring?” I guess that would depend on what you value.Then you can say this about everything cars, houses, boats, art, .... Wouldnt life be boring? Im sure some "rich egoist" also know what sounds good. They probably hire a sound engineer anyway. D
idnt Mark Levenison did this also with his own brand? Tune an amplifier to an environment, got bored of not been able to explore his "artist freedom" with mark levinson.
Yes some appreciate a communist regime where everyone and everything is the same. Not me, I prefer diversity.”Wouldn’t life be boring?” I guess that would depend on what you value.
The over the top reactions to this review are a bit surprising to me..
-People morally objecting to Amir’s recommendation
-People how question that they could sound good with EQ, despite being shown that with EQ the score can be as high as 8 with a subwoofer
-People saying how can this speaker be recommended when other speakers can sound as good or better at a lower cost. One has nothing to do with the other. Either it sounds good or it doesn’t. Both can be recommended based on sound
-Some seem to be against anything that is expensive. That is fine but shouldn’t really come into play for Amir on if something sounds good or not.
-I think there is a knee jerk reaction here anytime something measures less than Genelac flat but with or without EQ can sound good. It seems hard for people to accept that at times. Like headphones it seems that some speakers with a bit of EQ can be very good. I don’t see why that is hard to believe, even when we have examples of EQ that show this.
Have to give Amir credit on posting a recommend on this speaker based on what he heard after EQ, knowing what would follow...
That is obscene!No it's not. This is...
Wilson audio TuneTot is made for not sound friendly environments. Look at their website, where this speaker is places against windows, concreet walls etc. I believe it is tuned like this. Balancing on- and off-axis the way they do to get the best result. Look at the estimate in room response. Placing this speaker against the wall will raise the 500-100Hz region as baffle step creaps in at around 500-600Hz for this kind of speaker. Placing it at the right distance from the back wall, will sound pretty goodThe over the top reactions to this review are a bit surprising to me..
-People morally objecting to Amir’s recommendation
-People how question that they could sound good with EQ, despite being shown that with EQ the score can be as high as 8 with a subwoofer
-People saying how can this speaker be recommended when other speakers can sound as good or better at a lower cost. One has nothing to do with the other. Either it sounds good or it doesn’t. Both can be recommended based on sound
-Some seem to be against anything that is expensive. That is fine but shouldn’t really come into play for Amir on if something sounds good or not.
-I think there is a knee jerk reaction here anytime something measures less than Genelac flat but with or without EQ can sound good. It seems hard for people to accept that at times. Like headphones it seems that some speakers with a bit of EQ can be very good. I don’t see why that is hard to believe, even when we have examples of EQ that show this.
Have to give Amir credit on posting a recommend on this speaker based on what he heard after EQ, knowing what would follow...
I think they require EQ in Amirs room because it is not designed for that kind of room. I assume the designs is meant to be close to the wall and very reflective room. I do believe that this speaker is very specific for its environment and when that doesnt match up it will preform (far) less than a stardard correct textbook design.
But their own material claims that the average in room response for the speaker is 65-25khz +/- 3db. So either they "intentionally" designed the speaker to measure/behave this way, or someone goofed when writing the specs.Wilson audio TuneTot is made for not sound friendly environments. Look at their website, where this speaker is places against windows, concreet walls etc. I believe it is tuned like this. Balancing on- and off-axis the way they do to get the best result. Look at the estimate in room response. Placing this speaker against the wall will raise the 500-100Hz region as baffle step creaps in at around 500-600Hz for this kind of speaker. Placing it at the right distance from the back wall, will sound pretty good
BTW picture is not from Wilson Audio.
Right, I’d prefer that gear be rated for value at a price point, but I have the measurements, I have the price, I can do that calculation for myself. Does Amir get swayed by the allure of luxury goods? If he does, it makes him human.I really don't understand the complaints about Amir's recommendation process. He has stated repeatedly that he usually does not take price into consideration, and in the rare cases when he does, he says so. It is not the same basis I use, but so what? As long as he is clear about his standards, consistent, and honest, that is all anyone should ask. Read the review and then make a decision for yourself about whether it is a product you are interested in.
Let me correct an error you made.But their own material claims that the average in room response for the speaker is 65-25khz +/- 3db. So either they "intentionally" designed the speaker to measure/behave this way, or someone goofed when writing the specs.
I'm very fond of German romantic music, so I know what "tot" meansBTW if you also like to practice German, "tot" means "dead" in German (seriously)