You are a self-professed bass head, though. I find Harman to be far too subby to be accurate. HRTF and taste matters.To my ears, it lacks bass to the point that my bass heavy reference tracks are totally bland and unenjoyable.
You are a self-professed bass head, though. I find Harman to be far too subby to be accurate. HRTF and taste matters.To my ears, it lacks bass to the point that my bass heavy reference tracks are totally bland and unenjoyable.
That EQ is about right for a Bose 901Sigh* I've been showing off my PEQ settings for a long time and nobody freaks out... LoL. ChiLax!
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So long since I've heard a 901 I might like it! LoL. Crank the snappy stuff and make it have snap all around is my goal.That EQ is about right for a Bose 901
I am??? I like to hear deep bass that headphones can produce. They are superior to even the best speakers. I absolutely do NOT like bloated or exaggerated bass. This headphone has simply no sub-bass response on tracks that show it easily with my speakers and other reference headphones. Do an AB comparison and it is jaw dropping difference.You are a self-professed bass head, though. I find Harman to be far too subby to be accurate. HRTF and taste matters.
You are misapplying that experience. A doctor with 10 years of experience does have more intuition and wisdom than another doctor who doesn't. But here, we are talking about two disciplines: building headphones and creating a target frequency response. I have no doubt Zack has gained that knowledge and wisdom in building headphones. Given its great looks, and good work in marketing, he clearly has validation of that. He has however done no formal studies of any kind in listener preference. So cannot present any wisdom or intuition.From my plain life experience if someone spends over a decade with something and is successful with it, there will be a fair amount of knowledge.It rarely occurs that people poke in the dark for 10 years without any idea of what they are doing which your review implies and yet are successful with what they do. More and more people enjoy ZMF tuning and advice others to try a ZMF for a reason. People are here for sound in the first place, great craftsmanship and customer care is a cherry on top. Yes I do think Zach has a fair amount of experience with tuning a headphone design from ground up.
Are there any really good $50 headphones?
I see none waiting. As a member with too few posts, they get subjected to moderation if they trigger our spam filters. As we see them, we quickly approve them. I just looked there and was super disappointed to read this from Zack:In other news according to head-fi posts Zach cant reply to you since his posts are waiting for moderation approval ...
Two things:
1. Spending $100,000 on a watch is done purely to be ostentatious and wasteful. It's shameful behaviour and should be criticized, in the same way spending tens of thousands of dollars on high-end audio "tweaks" is purely an ostentatious display of wasted wealth, is shameful, and ought to be criticized.
2. No one who spends $100,000 on a watch pretends it keeps better time than a $20 Casio. Plenty of people drop $3,500 on headphones thinking it will get them better performance than a $350 set of headphones. Those people are mistaken, and people are right to call out those errors in the comments.
So yeah, there's no good reason to spend $3,500 on a product that doesn't give you better performance, aesthetics, or comfort compared to a product 1/10th the price, and to the statement, "well it's just an ostentatious display of wealth like other luxury products", I say "yes, and that's gross".
Yes there are and finally I can break free and confess, I am one of those. I could not speak out before as I was threatened by Amir and his Harman thugs. But now I found the courage! What I really like is a frequency reponse with big holes, preferably between 1-2 kHz and 4-5 kHZ, that is just my desired tuning. Also low bass and very unsmooth treble are my thing.I'm pretty sure there's many of you on this forum who enjoy a headphone that isn't tuned exactly to @amirm 's cult of Harman tuning, but are afraid to speak up because of the insane groupthink that happens here. I'm here to tell you that it's OK, because all of us on the side of things that are actually making headphones, know that there are many variations, including liking the Harman curve that can be enjoyable for many different reasons. I implore you to like what you like and stand up for yourself, because there's a reason you like what you like, and you're not alone!!!!
No, no. The starting target were Revel speakers in a reference room. They compared that to other targets like Diffused Field and found listeners preferred Harman's. Later on when this was established, they experimented with people having dials for bass and treble and adjusted the target. Idea being that without tactile feedback that speakers bring, headphones need more bass.What were the target curves compared in the Harmon research. I thought they just gave people a flat ish response and then let them adjust treble and bass.
oh my god my ears are bleeding just looking at this!!Sigh* I've been showing off my PEQ settings for a long time and nobody freaks out... LoL. ChiLax!
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I am using the Sennheiser HD 598SR headphones.Are you correcting for a very treble-deficient speaker or headphone?
ah is the research published anywhere? it would be nice to see the experimental design and power for the studies.No, no. The starting target were Revel speakers in a reference room. They compared that to other targets like Diffused Field and found listeners preferred Harman's. Later on when this was established, they experimented with people having dials for bass and treble and adjusted the target. Idea being that without tactile feedback that speakers bring, headphones need more bass.
Here is an article by Sean Olive that summarizes the research.ah is the research published anywhere? it would be nice to see the experimental design and power for the studies.
I just looked there and was super disappointed to read this from Zack:
"Just to clarify, I am not trying to post over there anymore since now I know it's being moderated, none of my posts are awaiting approval since I'm done posting on ASR. I just think it's funny my posts were paused so Amir could drop the hammer."
We took no such action. His posts were approved by our moderators way before I even read them. And once he gets to 16 or so posts, all of his posts will appear immediately without our spam filter triggering moderation.