What are we listening to right now..

[BillG]

https://astrangelyisolatedplace.bandcamp.com/album/remote-viewing

 

[BillG]

From here to infinity...

https://asc77.bandcamp.com/album/realm-of-the-infinite

 

[Wombat]

 

[BillG]

All of them...

http://theasc.blogspot.com/p/auxcast_13.html

 

[maty]

Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis (1968), SACD, Analogue Productions 2013, US

https://www.discogs.com/Dusty-Springfield-Dusty-In-Memphis/release/5136827

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -1.89 dB -16.55 dB 2:21 01-Just a Little Lovin'
DR11 -0.46 dB -15.53 dB 3:31 02-So Much Love
DR12 -0.69 dB -16.77 dB 2:28 03-Son of a Preacher Man
DR12 -1.50 dB -17.27 dB 3:11 04-I Don't Want to Hear It Anymore
DR11 0.00 dB -14.31 dB 2:52 05-Don't Forget About Me
DR13 0.00 dB -15.97 dB 2:57 06-Breakfast in Bed
DR12 0.00 dB -16.68 dB 2:42 07-Just One Smile
DR11 0.00 dB -16.45 dB 3:51 08-The Windmills of Your Mind
DR13 -2.98 dB -19.20 dB 2:32 09-In the Land of Make Believe
DR12 -0.77 dB -17.20 dB 3:11 10-No Easy Way Down
DR12 -0.07 dB -16.02 dB 3:56 11-I Can't Make It Alone
DR12 -0.48 dB -15.88 dB 2:49 12-Willie and Laura Mae Jones
DR11 -2.51 dB -16.24 dB 2:59 13-Hi-De-Ho (That Old Sweet Roll)
DR11 -0.59 dB -14.83 dB 2:44 14-What Do You Do When Love Dies
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 14
Official DR value: DR12


CD, 1999

https://www.amazon.com/Dusty-Memphis-Springfield/dp/B00000HZEQ

 

[Andolink]

a beautifully done recording in all respects - -

 

[maty]

Father John Misty - Pure Comedy (1987), Vinyl x2, Sub Pop 2017, US

https://www.discogs.com/Father-John-Misty-Pure-Comedy/release/10090180

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -0.45 dB -15.24 dB 6:25 01-Pure Comedy
DR9 -0.28 dB -11.39 dB 2:54 02-Total Entertainment Forever
DR9 -0.03 dB -12.72 dB 4:19 03-Things It Would Have Been Helpful To Know Before The Revolution
DR10 -0.03 dB -13.07 dB 4:52 04-Ballad Of The Dying Man
DR13 -0.07 dB -16.78 dB 5:19 05-Birdie
DR10 -2.84 dB -16.51 dB 13:07 06-Leaving LA
DR10 -0.04 dB -12.39 dB 4:42 07-A Bigger Paper Bag
DR12 -3.07 dB -18.61 dB 4:05 08-When The God Of Love Returns There'll Be Hell To Pay
DR11 -0.95 dB -14.52 dB 3:45 09-Smoochie
DR11 -0.25 dB -16.33 dB 3:13 10-Two Wildly Different Perspectives
DR10 -0.73 dB -16.23 dB 5:15 11-The Memo
DR11 -0.15 dB -14.76 dB 9:58 12-So I'm Growing Old On Magic Mountain
DR12 -0.15 dB -16.75 dB 6:39 13-In Twenty Years Or So
DR9 -0.04 dB -11.66 dB 3:11 14-Real Love Baby
DR11 -0.05 dB -12.72 dB 4:28 15-Rejected Generic Pop Song March `15 #3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR11


CD, 2017

https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Comedy-Father-John-Misty/dp/B01MZCV1YA


http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Father+John+Misty&album=Pure+Comedy

 

[maty]

Ormandy, The Philadelphia Orchestra - Mahler - Symphony No. 1 in D (1969), Vinyl, RCA Red Seal, US

https://www.discogs.com/The-Philade...-Long-Lost-Original-Second-Mo/release/3506917

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR14 -0.05 dB -20.01 dB 12:48 01-Langsam, Schleppand; Im Angang Sehr Gemächlich
DR16 -3.47 dB -25.61 dB 6:34 02-Andante Allegretto ("Blumine")
DR13 -0.07 dB -17.98 dB 7:09 03-Kräftig Bewegt, Doch Nicht Zu Schnell
DR15 -3.63 dB -24.64 dB 10:29 04-Feierlich Und Gemessen, Ohne Zu Schleppen
DR12 -0.05 dB -16.12 dB 18:01 05-Stürmisch Bewegt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR14


CD, 2006

https://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-1-Titan/dp/B000EHQ8G4

 

[BillG]

I did it for Drum & Bass...

https://soundcloud.com/sunandbass%2Fsunandbass-podcast-79-naibu

 

[Deleted member 65]

Going to attend her concert coming wednesday in at Stockholm Jazzfestival

 

[BillG]

 

[Deleted member 65]

One more Ayanna ...

 

[Deleted member 65]

Promoting Ayanna, something for @amirm ?

 

[maty]

Ella Fitzgerald - Ella Swings Lightly (1958), Vinyl, mono, Verve, US

https://www.discogs.com/Ella-Fitzgerald-Ella-Swings-Lightly/release/3009568

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -3.32 dB -17.85 dB 2:34 A1-Little White Lies
DR12 -2.11 dB -16.21 dB 2:47 A2-You Hit The Spot
DR11 -2.74 dB -16.20 dB 2:42 A3-What's Your Story, Morning Glory
DR12 -1.67 dB -16.48 dB 2:23 A4-Just You Just Me
DR14 -1.65 dB -17.57 dB 2:51 A5-As Long As I Live
DR13 -1.37 dB -17.17 dB 3:47 A6-Teardrops From My Eyes
DR13 -1.63 dB -17.64 dB 3:08 A7-Gotta Be This Or That
DR13 -1.96 dB -17.57 dB 2:24 A8-Moonlight On The Ganges
DR12 -3.01 dB -17.71 dB 3:44 B1-My Kinda Love
DR12 -0.80 dB -18.40 dB 3:42 B2-Blues In The Night
DR13 -3.45 dB -19.51 dB 2:36 B3-If I Were A Bell
DR14 -1.30 dB -19.35 dB 2:48 B4-You're An Old Smoothie
DR13 -2.18 dB -19.08 dB 3:06 B5-Little Jazz
DR11 -4.03 dB -18.40 dB 2:22 B6-You Brought A New Kind Of Love To Me
DR13 -4.23 dB -20.24 dB 4:10 B7-Knock Me A Kiss
DR14 -3.07 dB -19.64 dB 2:54 B8-720 In The Books
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Number of tracks: 16
Official DR value: DR13

 

[maty]

A Spectacular Sound Experience (2019), Vinyl x2, Telarc / Inakustik, 45 rpm 180 gr, Germany

https://www.in-akustik.de/en/music-...spectacular-sound-experience-45-rpm-01678081/

DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR13 -0.52 dB -18.71 dB A1 Strauss - Introduction To Also Sprach Zarathustra
DR14 -0.20 dB -18.10 dB A2 Williams - Star Wars- Episode IV - A New Hope- Main Theme
DR16 -0.19 dB -22.00 dB A3 Williams - Star Wars- Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back- The Imperial March
DR15 -0.16 dB -19.46 dB A4 Goldsmith - Star Trek- Main Theme (The movie)
DR16 -0.16 dB -21.97 dB B1 Chiller - Opening Sequence
DR16 -0.43 dB -22.35 dB B2 Williams - Raiders of the Lost Ark- The Raiders' March
DR14 -0.60 dB -18.02 dB B3 Silvestri - Back to the Future
DR16 -2.36 dB -23.46 dB B4 Cybergenesis
DR16 -0.60 dB -20.91 dB B5 Fiedel - Terminator- Theme
DR16 -0.49 dB -21.52 dB C1 Orff - Carmina Burana- Introduction- Fortune, Empress of the World
DR21 -0.31 dB -26.02 dB C2 Johann Strauss - Explosions Polka, Op. 43
DR17 -0.41 dB -22.50 dB C3 Tchaikowsky - 1812 Overture, Op. 49 (Digitally Recorded Cannons Fifth Virginia Regiment)
DR14 -0.31 dB -19.01 dB C4 Rossini - Wilhelm Tell Overture- Finale- Lone Ranger Theme
DR15 -0.44 dB -19.00 dB D1 Bizet - Carmen- Suite No 1- Les Toreadors - Introduction To Act I
DR14 -0.60 dB -21.32 dB D2 Borodin - Music from Prince Igor- Polovtsian Dances (Excerpt)
DR18 -0.57 dB -24.34 dB D3 Saint-Saens -Danse Macabre, Op. 40
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Number of files: 16
Official DR value: DR17

 

[tensor9]

 

[Eirikur]

A Spectacular Sound Experience (2019), Vinyl x2, Telarc / Inakustik, 45 rpm 180 gr, Germany
Official DR value: DR17

Educational break [ @maty : no disrespect intended, I'm studying this and get educated as I go along ]

Postscript: Ian further investigated what might cause the difference in DR

In the video, I mention that I can hear a change in the image. More specifically, I hear it as narrower, on the vinyl. This is quite normal - there is always a certain amount of cross-talk between the left and right channels, and it's also quite common for the cutting engineer to choose to narrow the stereo image in the bass region, or even overall, as I mentioned above. I have no idea if that was done in this case - the image on the CD is quite wide, so it's perfectly possible.

Either way, I tried the same thing on the digital file, ie. narrowing the stereo image slightly. And lo and behold, the measured DR value increased to... DR12! Looking very similar on the meter to what we see on the vinyl.

So, it may be as simple as that. Either a tweak during the cut, or just normal cross-talk, is sufficient to alter the wave-forms so that their peak level increases enough to account for the "extra" DR points.

And before anybody asks, no this isn't a "real" increase in dynamics, it's just a side-effect of the audio processing.

Now to the really important part, for the purposes of this thread.

The channel cross-talk I mentioned will certainly play some part in what we're seeing, even if the engineer also made a tweak. And it happens on every vinyl release, and just like the EQ, it depends on the playback system.

In other words, the same record played on different decks may exhibit a different degree of image width, and measure a different DR value as a result - which is a point that's been made several times in this thread already. What's interesting to me is that this change alone is sufficient to cause the spurious DR boost, and it will happen to some extent whenever a piece of vinyl is played.

 

[maty]

It works, I have verified it many times, because many times I have the same recording on different media. Days ago I checked again with the CD and vinyl: Jan Garbarek & The Hilliard Ensemble - Officium (1993)

The DR values matched exactly for each track. By the way, the sound of the CD is better than vinyl 2014 pressing.

https://www.discogs.com/Jan-Garbarek-The-Hilliard-Ensemble-Officium/release/1075957

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR13 -0.66 dB -19.82 dB 6:42 01-Parce mihi domine
DR12 -5.35 dB -25.30 dB 8:04 02-Primo tempore
DR12 -1.61 dB -19.70 dB 4:45 03-Sanctus
DR13 -4.61 dB -23.85 dB 5:36 04-Regnantem sempiterna
DR12 0.00 dB -17.96 dB 4:35 05-O salutaris hostia
DR12 -7.31 dB -25.34 dB 2:50 06-Procedentem sponsum
DR13 -0.46 dB -20.73 dB 6:56 07-Pulcherrima rosa
DR12 -8.48 dB -26.01 dB 5:36 08-Parce mihi domine
DR14 -5.20 dB -25.36 dB 6:34 09-Beata viscera
DR13 -1.84 dB -20.46 dB 2:31 10-De spineto nata rosa
DR12 -0.55 dB -17.57 dB 2:07 11-Credo
DR12 0.00 dB -17.66 dB 4:14 12-Ave Maris Stella
DR14 0.00 dB -20.13 dB 5:20 13-Virgo flagellatur
DR16 -4.32 dB -28.49 dB 5:01 14-Oratio Ieremiae
DR13 -1.90 dB -20.50 dB 6:52 15-Parce mihi domine
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Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR13


https://www.discogs.com/Jan-Garbarek-The-Hilliard-Ensemble-Officium/release/6275621

DR Peak RMS Filename
———————————————————————————————-

DR13 -0.48 dB -18.97 dB A1 Parce Mihi Domine
DR12 -4.84 dB -23.51 dB A2 Primo Tempore
DR12 -0.95 dB -18.76 dB A3 Sanctus
DR13 -5.61 dB -24.73 dB B1 Regnantem Sempiterna
DR12 -0.52 dB -18.81 dB B2 O Salutaris Hostia
DR12 -7.75 dB -25.35 dB B3 Procedentem Sponsum
DR13 -2.06 dB -21.48 dB B4 Pulcherrima Rosa
DR12 -9.51 dB -26.25 dB C1 Parce Mihi Domine
DR14 -6.54 dB -26.46 dB C2 Beata Viscera
DR12 -3.55 dB -21.53 dB C3 De Spineto Nata Rosa
DR11 -1.69 dB -18.63 dB C4 Credo
DR12 -0.56 dB -18.47 dB C5 Ave Maris Stella
DR14 -0.30 dB -21.20 dB D1 Virgo Flagellatur
DR16 -4.43 dB -28.64 dB D2 Oratio Ieremiae
DR13 -3.04 dB -21.69 dB D3 Parce Mihi Domine
———————————————————————————————-

Number of files: 15
Official DR value: DR13

 

[maty]

Penguin Cafe Orchestra - A Brief History (2001), SACD, Virgin 2003, Europe

https://www.discogs.com/Penguin-Cafe-Orchestra-A-Brief-History/release/5477284

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -3.64 dB -16.35 dB 4:30 01-Bean Fields (Live)
DR15 -3.37 dB -20.09 dB 2:26 02-Telephone And Rubber Band
DR9 -5.83 dB -17.39 dB 3:39 03-Music For A Found Harmonium
DR10 -4.94 dB -16.98 dB 4:28 04-Perpetuum Mobile
DR11 -4.59 dB -17.84 dB 3:20 05-From The Colonies (Live)
DR10 -2.86 dB -15.64 dB 4:13 06-Giles Farnaby's Dream (Live)
DR9 -5.00 dB -17.77 dB 2:22 07-Surface Tension
DR12 -3.25 dB -17.45 dB 4:32 08-Air Danser
DR15 -3.55 dB -23.06 dB 4:09 09-Yodel 1
DR10 -4.30 dB -17.90 dB 6:53 10-Numbers 1 - 4
DR11 -3.27 dB -17.64 dB 3:36 11-Steady State
DR12 -7.47 dB -22.71 dB 1:44 12-Paul's Dance
DR11 -4.36 dB -18.55 dB 3:57 13-Prelude And Yodel (Live)
DR12 -3.93 dB -18.08 dB 4:11 14-Heartwind
DR14 -5.38 dB -26.07 dB 5:47 15-White Mischief
DR10 -4.06 dB -16.32 dB 4:48 16-Dirt
DR11 -3.07 dB -16.93 dB 4:13 17-Rosasolis
DR11 -3.38 dB -17.07 dB 4:27 18-Organum
DR11 -5.67 dB -21.14 dB 3:57 19-Lullaby
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 19
Official DR value: DR11


CD, 2002

https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Penguin-Cafe-Orchestra/dp/B00006C791

 

[BillG]

Autonomic...

http://nonplusrecords.bandcamp.com/album/timelines-lp