Spotify to launch 'Hi-Fi' CD Quality Tier.

[Pearljam5000]

What's currently is the cheapest streaming service that offers lossless quality?

 

[Jimbob54]

What's currently is the cheapest streaming service that offers lossless quality?

I believe Amazon HD if you are already a prime member. Tidal probably 2nd. Territory depending of course

 

[copperblue]

Apple tried to sue Samsung over the rectangular shape BS and also over a slide to unlock function. Patents on such obvious things are ridiculous. A rectangular shape is not original and we have had real world slide to unlock devices for hundreds of years. Instead of doing the right thing and fighting against a broken patent system, Apple tried to use it against their competition.

I had a stupid little patent company that never created a product sue me over a BS obvious software patent over something I created 5 years before the idiots at the patent office granted those jerks a patent on it. I was able to prove it was obvious to anyone doing software development and that they had ignored years of "prior art" and got the stupid patent thrown out. So yes, I hate stupid patents of any kind and the companies that try to use them.

The way I see this, is that - if the opportunity exists to sue/copyright something as obvious as a patent for "Do Something In Software" etcetera, then NOT suing someone for this is clearly negligent. I blame the system - not Apple for this patent trolling nonsense. Other opinions are available, etc.

 

[KaeliKoo]

What's currently is the cheapest streaming service that offers lossless quality?

Radio Paradise in Flac -- It's free (supported by donation). Very eclectic mix of folk, jazz, rock, global. When you rate songs it starts creating your own "My Favorites" mix you can play anytime. Cool folks that run it, been around a loooong time.

 

[mhardy6647]

Apple Music doesn’t support Atmos on Windows as far as I know. You’ll need a Mac or AppleTV (via eARC) to get multichannel Atmos into your Flex. You’ll only get 7.1 via HDMI though (DD+).

Remember when one could just hook stuff together... with a wire (or two)?

 

[Emlin]

Remember when one could just hook stuff together... with a wire (or two)?

Expensive to get the really best wires though!

 

[mhardy6647]

Expensive to get the really best wires though!

Good point!

 

[zonk]

What kind of hardware do i need to get Apple music into a MiniDSP Flex HT (input would be USB with max 8 channels, the device has no codecs or something)?
Would a regular Thinkpad do for a test?

I am not sure about the actual status, because I stopped using Apple music/Itunes some time ago, because for Windows 10 was only Itunes available with 256 KBit AAC. Therefore I switched to Tidal and qobuz, but now I use qobuz only.

Apple Music was not supported on Windows 10, only Itunes was available and supported up to 256 Kbit AAC. As workaround I used a while an old Iphone with the camera kit to stream Apple Music hires files into a DAC.

I think later Apple Music App was available for Windows 11. But I never used it.

 

[Tell]

I'm afraid tidal connect isn't supported on their android TV app. It's a downright abysmal experience, unfortunately.

I've been having thoughts on trying Tidal for a while now, but reading this is a real deal breaker for me since I'm playing my music through my Nvidia Shield. It really is so nice playing Spotify through that but controlling it from my computer or phone as if I'm playing it through them, it really is seamless and I wouldn't want anything less than this if I'm ever going to change streaming platform.

 

[alont]

I've been having thoughts on trying Tidal for a while now, but reading this is a real deal breaker for me since I'm playing my music through my Nvidia Shield. It really is so nice playing Spotify through that but controlling it from my computer or phone as if I'm playing it through them, it really is seamless and I wouldn't want anything less than this if I'm ever going to change streaming platform.

Yep, I'm also running it on my shield. Aside from the lack of connect support it also has a bunch of other issues -

1. Super loud scrolling sound that cannot be muted. Drives me crazy especially when playing music with high dynamic range.
2. The whole search experience is just horrible - don't expect to be able to enter a partial name and find what you're looking for.
3. I kid you not - there's no way to go back to "now playing" view once you exit it. You will have to start playing a song to get back to that view.
4. Lots of bugs all around. I often have to force close it for it to start working again.

 

[Tell]

Yep, I'm also running it on my shield. Aside from the lack of connect support it also has a bunch of other issues -

1. Super loud scrolling sound that cannot be muted. Drives me crazy especially when playing music with high dynamic range.
2. The whole search experience is just horrible - don't expect to be able to enter a partial name and find what you're looking for.
3. I kid you not - there's no way to go back to "now playing" view once you exit it. You will have to start playing a song to get back to that view.
4. Lots of bugs all around. I often have to force close it for it to start working again.

Spotify on Android TV really leave a lot to be desired, but compared to Tidal it seems to be the best thing since sliced bread. I don't get it how ot can be so hard for these big comporations can do proper and well functioning apps?

 

[Emlin]

Spotify on Android TV really leave a lot to be desired, but compared to Tidal it seems to be the best thing since sliced bread. I don't get it how ot can be so hard for these big comporations can do proper and well functioning apps?

It's all part of the great shittification that's going on all around us, with us as the victims.

 

[goat76]

Yep, I'm also running it on my shield. Aside from the lack of connect support it also has a bunch of other issues -

1. Super loud scrolling sound that cannot be muted. Drives me crazy especially when playing music with high dynamic range.
2. The whole search experience is just horrible - don't expect to be able to enter a partial name and find what you're looking for.
3. I kid you not - there's no way to go back to "now playing" view once you exit it. You will have to start playing a song to get back to that view.
4. Lots of bugs all around. I often have to force close it for it to start working again.

Aren't those points you make mostly related to the use of the Tidal app for the Shield device, or do you find the Spotify app for the Shield (if it has one) to be of a much higher quality than the Tidal app?
The lack of Tidal Connect support for the Shield seems to be more of a Shield problem than a Tidal problem. It can easily be solved by simply choosing another playback device that actually supports Tidal Connect.

“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”
The lack of Tidal Connect for the Shield unit should be a pretty easy problem to solve (for someone who wants to solve it).


There are so many ways in my home to play music from Tidal:
1. Chromecast to my daughter's Shield...
2. Tidal Connect with my Marantz receiver...
3. Airplay to Apple TV, LG TV, Marantz receiver, and Linn streamer...
4. The Linn app (which I prefer over the Tidal app) and all the other device's built-in apps.

If none of the above alternatives would be satisfying enough, there's always the option to get Roon.

 

[MoreWatts]

Here's one way to make money on Spotify.

The day the music lied: FBI busts musician’s elaborate AI-pwered $10M streaming-royalty heist. Feds say it's the first US criminal case involving artificially inflated music streaming. Arstechnica.com 9/5/24​

"Michael Smith, 52, allegedly used AI to create hundreds of thousands of fake songs by nonexistent bands, then streamed them using bots to collect royalties from platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music... Smith calculated that he could stream his songs 661,440 times daily, potentially earning $3,307.20 per day and up to $1.2 million annually. By June 2019, Smith was earning about $110,000 monthly, sharing a portion with his co-conspirators. The NYT reports that in an email earlier this year, he boasted of reaching 4 billion streams and $12 million in royalties since 2019."

This artist didn't get ripped-off by Spotify, at least. Just think what Neil Young must earn...

 

[Emlin]

Here's one way to make money on Spotify.

The day the music lied: FBI busts musician’s elaborate AI-pwered $10M streaming-royalty heist. Feds say it's the first US criminal case involving artificially inflated music streaming. Arstechnica.com 9/5/24​

"Michael Smith, 52, allegedly used AI to create hundreds of thousands of fake songs by nonexistent bands, then streamed them using bots to collect royalties from platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music... Smith calculated that he could stream his songs 661,440 times daily, potentially earning $3,307.20 per day and up to $1.2 million annually. By June 2019, Smith was earning about $110,000 monthly, sharing a portion with his co-conspirators. The NYT reports that in an email earlier this year, he boasted of reaching 4 billion streams and $12 million in royalties since 2019."

This artist didn't get ripped-off by Spotify, at least. Just think what Neil Young must earn...

Much like Taylor Swift, I imagine.

 

[Zensō]

Here's one way to make money on Spotify.

The day the music lied: FBI busts musician’s elaborate AI-pwered $10M streaming-royalty heist. Feds say it's the first US criminal case involving artificially inflated music streaming. Arstechnica.com 9/5/24​

"Michael Smith, 52, allegedly used AI to create hundreds of thousands of fake songs by nonexistent bands, then streamed them using bots to collect royalties from platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music... Smith calculated that he could stream his songs 661,440 times daily, potentially earning $3,307.20 per day and up to $1.2 million annually. By June 2019, Smith was earning about $110,000 monthly, sharing a portion with his co-conspirators. The NYT reports that in an email earlier this year, he boasted of reaching 4 billion streams and $12 million in royalties since 2019."

This artist didn't get ripped-off by Spotify, at least. Just think what Neil Young must earn...

“Fake” songs and bands are not illegal (Spotify is flooded with those), it was the fake listeners that got him in trouble.

 

[Emlin]

“Fake” songs and bands are not illegal (Spotify is flooded with those), it was the fake listeners that got him in trouble.

The Swifties? Oh no!

 

[mhardy6647]

“Fake” songs and bands are not illegal (Spotify is flooded with those), it was the fake listeners that got him in trouble.

Jeez -- a guy shows a little initiative and look at the thanks he gets!

 

[Sal1950]

“Fake” songs and bands are not illegal (Spotify is flooded with those), it was the fake listeners that got him in trouble.

Jeez -- a guy shows a little initiative and look at the thanks he gets!

??? I was under the impression that a large proportion of streaming listeners were fake. No ?

 

[Zensō]

??? I was under the impression that a large proportion of streaming listeners were fake. No ?

Perhaps, though setting up armies of “listening bots” to collect royalties is clearly a no-no.