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Spotify to launch 'Hi-Fi' CD Quality Tier.

Spotify is raising their family subs from 16.99 to 19.99 and then they are going to tack on another $5 for lossless? Time to jump ship.
I finally did. It felt like a real FU to raise prices for the second time in a year for no added features.

They keep delaying lossless because they want it to 'make sense' for them and the customer. Translation, how can we charge a $5 premium and get away with it.

For a family plan with lossless I'm supposed to pay 50% more to get the same quality as your competitors because of what? An AI DJ who plays the same songs over and over again? That's never going to 'make sense' to me.

Spotify's competitors are continuously improving their services, now at a lower price, to try and take market share away from them while Spotify just sits there not knowing what to do because they can't figure out how to be profitable.
 
I'm getting ready to ditch Spotify because I can't countenance price increases while they continue to pay musicians even less. Their treating subscriptions as "bundles" as justification to siphon even more royalties away from songwriters is pretty appalling.

I don't want podcasts. I don't want audiobooks. I will never listen to those. I just want music and I want musicians to thrive. Spotify is a good way to access music, but it's the third worst way to help musicians earn a living, right after piracy and exclusively buying used albums.

The CEO's recent comments belittling music as "content" that's practically free to make didn't help either. If you set out to sound maximally out of touch and hostile to actual artists, you couldn't have written a better quote.

Probably switching to Apple or Tidal soon. And at least those platforms have the dignity not to nickel-and-dime their customers over mostly illusory sound quality (really just bitrate) increases.

e: My personal opinion is I think Spotify has made a fundamental error. They want to have a one-stop app for all audio content, i.e. all listening occasions. The CEO clearly believes all audio content is equivalent from a business perspective. But this is IMO completely wrong. Spotify offering audiobooks is no smarter than Netflix offering eBooks because they both happen to be entertainment consumed using your eyes. Turns out listening to music, podcasts, and audiobooks are 3 completely different activities with different value propositions. You can't just throw them all in a blender and charge 3x. At least, that's my view of it. IMO would have been smarter to unbundle from the beginning. Spotify Music, Spotify Books, Spotify Podcasts. Then the interface wouldn't be a jumble and the pricing would make sense for everyone. Stupid. It would also open the door to further brand extensions (maybe they get into workouts or recipes someday) but instead they decided to cram everything under the same big, smelly tent.

OK, done ranting about Spotify now.
 
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I'm getting ready to ditch Spotify because I can't countenance price increases while they continue to pay musicians even less. Their treating subscriptions as "bundles" as justification to siphon even more royalties away from songwriters is pretty appalling.

I don't want podcasts. I don't want audiobooks. I will never listen to those. I just want music and I want musicians to thrive. Spotify is a good way to access music, but it's the third worst way to help musicians earn a living, right after piracy and exclusively buying used albums.

The CEO's recent comments belittling music as "content" that's practically free to make didn't help either. If you set out to sound maximally out of touch and hostile to actual artists, you couldn't have written a better quote.

Probably switching to Apple or Tidal soon. And at least those platforms have the dignity not to nickel-and-dime their customers over mostly illusory sound quality (really just bitrate) increases.

e: My personal opinion is I think Spotify has made a fundamental error. They want to have a one-stop app for all audio content, i.e. all listening occasions. The CEO clearly believes all audio content is equivalent from a business perspective. But this is IMO completely wrong. Spotify offering audiobooks is no smarter than Netflix offering eBooks because they both happen to be entertainment consumed using your eyes. Turns out listening to music, podcasts, and audiobooks are 3 completely different activities with different value propositions. You can't just throw them all in a blender and charge 3x. At least, that's my view of it. IMO would have been smarter to unbundle from the beginning. Spotify Music, Spotify Books, Spotify Podcasts. Then the interface wouldn't be a jumble and the pricing would make sense for everyone. Stupid. It would also open the door to further brand extensions (maybe they get into workouts or recipes someday) but instead they decided to cram everything under the same big, smelly tent.

OK, done ranting about Spotify now.
I left Spotify a long time ago, but I thought about saving up some money, so I switched to SoundCloud. I mean, I mostly listen on YouTube, but sometimes I use SoundCloud as well
 
I'm getting ready to ditch Spotify because I can't countenance price increases while they continue to pay musicians even less. Their treating subscriptions as "bundles" as justification to siphon even more royalties away from songwriters is pretty appalling.

I don't want podcasts. I don't want audiobooks. I will never listen to those. I just want music and I want musicians to thrive. Spotify is a good way to access music, but it's the third worst way to help musicians earn a living, right after piracy and exclusively buying used albums.

The CEO's recent comments belittling music as "content" that's practically free to make didn't help either. If you set out to sound maximally out of touch and hostile to actual artists, you couldn't have written a better quote.

Probably switching to Apple or Tidal soon. And at least those platforms have the dignity not to nickel-and-dime their customers over mostly illusory sound quality (really just bitrate) increases.

e: My personal opinion is I think Spotify has made a fundamental error. They want to have a one-stop app for all audio content, i.e. all listening occasions. The CEO clearly believes all audio content is equivalent from a business perspective. But this is IMO completely wrong. Spotify offering audiobooks is no smarter than Netflix offering eBooks because they both happen to be entertainment consumed using your eyes. Turns out listening to music, podcasts, and audiobooks are 3 completely different activities with different value propositions. You can't just throw them all in a blender and charge 3x. At least, that's my view of it. IMO would have been smarter to unbundle from the beginning. Spotify Music, Spotify Books, Spotify Podcasts. Then the interface wouldn't be a jumble and the pricing would make sense for everyone. Stupid. It would also open the door to further brand extensions (maybe they get into workouts or recipes someday) but instead they decided to cram everything under the same big, smelly tent.

OK, done ranting about Spotify now.

You are right about everything you said. Spotify is moving in the wrong direction while Tidal is doing everything right. I just canceled Spotify. I also don't want podcasts or audiobooks on a music service and I'm not going to pay extra for it.

Going to stick with Tidal, Amazon Music HD and YouTube Music. I will use YouTube Music for discovery. Their algorithm is just as good as Spotify's. Tidal still needs to do a lot of work on their new music recommendations. At least they finally stopped recommending Rap and Hip Hop crap.
 
I will use YouTube Music for discovery. Their algorithm is just as good as Spotify's.
I had YTM for a while but couldn't get around the interface and youtube-y ness of it. But I came from Google Play Music, which IMO had better recommendations than Spotify, but they just rolled it into YTM for some reason.

The one thing I really hate about Spotify is when you create a radio station or generate a playlist of any kind, it seems to try really hard to not play any new music from that genre, it's usually all stuff I've heard 100 times. It's to the point that I'm suspicious they're trying to skimp on royalties, like maybe there's a lower rate for repeat plays or something...

I hear Tidal's recommendations are worse, but whatever, I'll just dig around a bit more.
 
I prefer to own my music and support the artists, so I buy albums at bandcamp.com or order CDs (when the album is not available from band camp.)
Since earlier this year, we have a sim card with 60GB/month in our car, enough to play higher bitrate radio streams (KCRW E24, Radio Paradise and Sublime FM) and not worry about data limits.
So, Spotify can go, I just need to have the courage to actually cancel my subscription...
 
I went to Tidal when they committed to do away with the MQA nonsense. I received an email yesterday to say it's actually happening.

"On July 24, 2024, we’re replacing the music in TIDAL’s MQA catalog with FLAC versions....."
@Monster Is that you & your Ducati Monster in your avatar?
 
Yes, it is.
Kool, I bought a new 900 Monster in 1994, Black Metalic, and rode it for around 5 years.
Great bike though I found it a little twitchy until I put a steering damper on it.
I love Ducks, super rides!
 
Last time I checked none of the other services offered a full equivalent of the handy Spotify Connect feature.
 
Last time I checked none of the other services offered a full equivalent of the handy Spotify Connect feature.

Tidal is pretty close. And Amazon has Alexacast that works with Wiim devices and all the echo products which I have in every room.
 
The Tidal app on my streamer (android TV) is a steaming pile of poop. And Spotify is still leaps and bounds better when it comes to their recommendation algorithm.

Nevertheless, I'm subscribed to both because of Tidal's support of Atmos.
 
Last time I checked none of the other services offered a full equivalent of the handy Spotify Connect feature.
To me the absolute best.. I would have though that Apple woudl have had something similar.. Nope. Plying Apple Music to any device is not intuitive.. You don't just send it to the device, like Spotify connect ...
On top of that Apple Classical is only on Apple iPhone....

:mad:

OTOH Spotify CD-quality seems to be the defintion of vaporware...


Peace.
 
Last time I checked none of the other services offered a full equivalent of the handy Spotify Connect feature.
Theres always Chromecast and LDAC
 
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