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Spotify to launch 'Hi-Fi' CD Quality Tier.

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Interesting. I will give it a trial to see if I like their discovery better than Deezer and Qobuz.
 

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What's the betting that any new 'Hi-fi' tier will include the current 320 kb rate + 'lossless' for a 75-100% price hike while the current low and medium bitrates will remain at the current price. This will make me sad as I can't hear any difference between 320 kb and lossless flac or cd anyway ...
 

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Interesting. I will give it a trial to see if I like their discovery better than Deezer and Qobuz.
Discovery was atrocious with qobuz for me. I suspect Spotify will be very good given the immense userbase.

In fairness, Youtube discovery is also not that great so maybe I expect too much.
 

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The funny thing is their regular mp3's sound like crap compared to Deezer for example, so I would assume this will apply also to their new tier.
 

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What's the betting that any new 'Hi-fi' tier will include the current 320 kb rate + 'lossless' for a 75-100% price hike while the current low and medium bitrates will remain at the current price. This will make me sad as I can't hear any difference between 320 kb and lossless flac or cd anyway ...
Seems the going rate for lossless with other services is $15/mo for single user so that's my guess.
Discovery was atrocious with qobuz for me. I suspect Spotify will be very good given the immense userbase.

In fairness, Youtube discovery is also not that great so maybe I expect too much.
My experience with both Deezer and Qobuz is that discovery seems good for a while, but they don't update enough and so soon you've heard most of what is being recommended.
 

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Maybe, just maybe (but I doubt it) this might mean eventual Roon integration for Spotify.

Though I fear that has always been a Spotify not Roon barrier.
 

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Maybe, just maybe (but I doubt it) this might mean eventual Roon integration for Spotify.

Though I fear that has always been a Spotify not Roon barrier.
I doubt it will make any difference, Spotify won't give them the metadata, and they want to control the playback.
 

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Seems the going rate for lossless with other services is $15/mo for single user so that's my guess.

My experience with both Deezer and Qobuz is that discovery seems good for a while, but they don't update enough and so soon you've heard most of what is being recommended.

I've never even found anything in Qobuz that remotely suggests it is even taking my library/ history into account. I think everything is their view on what (generic) users might/ should like.
 

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I doubt it will make any difference, Spotify won't give them the metadata, and they want to control the playback.
Yup. My take too. I fear I am going back round the loop. I ditched Tidal for Qobuz as it was cheaper, but there are just a few too many omissions from their library for me to be 100% happy with it. So I got a deal on Tidal to top it up but still be able to play through Roon. Spotify lossless through Roon would mean I could happily ditch both Tidal and Qobuz.

Still cheaper than buying CD/ files though.
 

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I ditched Tidal for Qobuz as it was cheaper, but there are just a few too many omissions from their library for me to be 100% happy with it.
I've been considering doing this, but the gaps in the catalogue sound bothersome, so I've not bothered yet.
 

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I've been considering doing this, but the gaps in the catalogue sound bothersome, so I've not bothered yet.
I subscribe to the lossy Amazon tier to fill in gaps (main service currently is Qobuz), since cost is negligible on top of Prime. That seems to work pretty well. I imagine I will still want to do this with Spotify too.
 

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I've been considering doing this, but the gaps in the catalogue sound bothersome, so I've not bothered yet.

It is bothersome. I would estimate 1 to 2 albums a month I seek to add to my Qobuz library (out of maybe 10-15 a month) arent there. Tidal usually has the gaps , if it doesnt, chances are it means it isnt on any streaming.

The Qobuz gaps seem to be a label based thing. Saddle Creek isnt/ wasnt on there at all.
 

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It is bothersome. I would estimate 1 to 2 albums a month I seek to add to my Qobuz library (out of maybe 10-15 a month) arent there. Tidal usually has the gaps , if it doesnt, chances are it means it isnt on any streaming.
I don't remember the last time something want on tidal, but was on Spotify, so it's coverage seems good to me. There are still plenty of things missing from both, I think mainly when the label it was on folded without a clean transfer of the rights to a buyer, same as things being out of print for years.
 
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