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Rolls SX45 Review (Analog Crossover)

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  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 36 24.8%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 77 53.1%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 29 20.0%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Total voters
    145
Would love to see the K231 tested but don’t want to be without mine for that long!
I just boxed my K231 up and will be sending it back tomorrow, it was like a wet blanket over my system. I really wanted to like it, and I expected it to be much better than the Rolls SX45. Nope, the Rolls SX45 bloodied the K231's nose, and cracked a rib or two. I'm listening to the Melody Gardot over a pair of Maggie LRS+ with a pair of REL T-Zero MKIII subs... Excuse me, but I need to go get Melody another glass of wine... ;-)
 
Does anyone know what opamps the SX45 uses?
It's in the manual:
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Does the op amp matter?
 
It's in the manual:
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Does the op amp matter?
Thanks!! Looks like a basic design. Interesting how they work out the single rail by putting B+ on the positive input to the opamp. In this case I don't think the opamp will make a huge difference.
 
Thanks!! Looks like a basic design. Interesting how they work out the single rail by putting B+ on the positive input to the opamp. In this case I don't think the opamp will make a huge difference.
It certainly won't affect or fix the channel imbalance that was measured on the tested unit.
The basic performance of each channel alone is decent. The problem is the integrated product, not the ingredients.
 
Nobody noticed that this thing's Low output is out of phase with the high pass?

See vid.


I heard it as soon as I got it. I'm using it at my CAD station where I do some rough mixing and mastering. Up to that point I just ran both full range. But I wanted to keep the little 3" on the desktop from getting whacked so I go this.

I did pro sound for years and used all the high end pro active xovers. Did sound for everyone from James Brown to Frankie Avalon to Wynton Marsalis to, Arlo Guthrie (interesting story here about that gig: https://www.ajawamnet.com/ajawamnet/arloandpete.html ,) to the Symphony at the Point series in Pittsburgh's Point State Park.

I'm really sensitive to phase mismatches.

So I got this SX45 thing and put it in the system. Man, it sounded weird. No matter what I dialed in for the xover freq it just sounded strange.

I then benched it as shown in the video link above.

ALSO - I know the phone audio sucks. The stereo mic set up they use leaves a lot to be desired and has phase issues of it's own... nasty. But at least it's not 180 out at all frequencies
 
Nobody noticed that this thing's Low output is out of phase with the high pass?

See vid.


I heard it as soon as I got it. I'm using it at my CAD station where I do some rough mixing and mastering. Up to that point I just ran both full range. But I wanted to keep the little 3" on the desktop from getting whacked so I go this.

I did pro sound for years and used all the high end pro active xovers. Did sound for everyone from James Brown to Frankie Avalon to Wynton Marsalis to, Arlo Guthrie (interesting story here about that gig: https://www.ajawamnet.com/ajawamnet/arloandpete.html ,) to the Symphony at the Point series in Pittsburgh's Point State Park.

I'm really sensitive to phase mismatches.

So I got this SX45 thing and put it in the system. Man, it sounded weird. No matter what I dialed in for the xover freq it just sounded strange.

I then benched it as shown in the video link above.

ALSO - I know the phone audio sucks. The stereo mic set up they use leaves a lot to be desired and has phase issues of it's own... nasty. But at least it's not 180 out at all frequencies
What was your favorite active crossover? I use Ashly 2000 and an EV AC1. For both I use REW to make sure phase and levels are correct.
 
What was your favorite active crossover? I use Ashly 2000 and an EV AC1. For both I use REW to make sure phase and levels are correct.
We used mainly the DBX 234's ... We were an EV dealer and occasionally used there's but mainly DBX... Interesting video I did of an Ashley parametric eq and resonance -
 
We used mainly the DBX 234's ... We were an EV dealer and occasionally used there's but mainly DBX... Interesting video I did of an Ashley parametric eq and resonance -
I have a new Ashly PEQ, I'll have to see if that still happens.
 
We used mainly the DBX 234's ... We were an EV dealer and occasionally used there's but mainly DBX... Interesting video I did of an Ashley parametric eq and resonance -

The DBX 234 produced an intolerable level of noise on my high sensitivity speakers, wondering if i got a faulty unit.
 

Someone needs to send this to @Amir for a test! Looks very interesting device. I had trouble getting two passive subwoofers for my diy 2-way speakers. I decided to go diy passive crossover with high/low filter. Can't be changed that easily and made for one speaker type only. Still the project is ongoing and not 100% sure if its work as intended.
I've been lusting after that active crossover and looking at the DIY versions for some time. I did buy some Aliexpress versions but didn't put them together due to low expectations.
 
IDK what would be the intended use for these this day and age, DIY experimenting?
For what it is, it seems OK to me, as long as its channel imbalance will counter the (almost always present) imbalance of the speakers behind, and not add to it, so one must swap channels if it does.

BTW: Potty panther? :p

I use it as a low pass filter for a pair of small subwoofers. Typically run it with a knee under 50Hz. The preamp has dual outputs, one goes to the main amp, the second to this device and onto the subwoofer amp.

Main speakers are run wideband.

In this system, I rotate six or seven main speakers in and out, all small, so I can easily adjust the cross over by listening to music, no need to use a computer to mess with it.

The system sounds really good, just adding a bit of bass reinforcement to the monitor sized main speakers.

I did buy a better device because now I have four subwoofers and I intend to bass wave form the room... so I need both the filtering plus the delay... but as simple to use low pass filter it works quite well.
 
I use it as a low pass filter for a pair of small subwoofers. Typically run it with a knee under 50Hz. The preamp has dual outputs, one goes to the main amp, the second to this device and onto the subwoofer amp.

Main speakers are run wideband.

In this system, I rotate six or seven main speakers in and out, all small, so I can easily adjust the cross over by listening to music, no need to use a computer to mess with it.

The system sounds really good, just adding a bit of bass reinforcement to the monitor sized main speakers.

I did buy a better device because now I have four subwoofers and I intend to bass wave form the room... so I need both the filtering plus the delay... but as simple to use low pass filter it works quite well.
I'm doing basically the same thing: Two subs supporting bookshelf monitors that I swap in and out all the time. I'm currently using two 8" Subs that only have LFE input. I'm currently using an FMOD RCA 100Hz Low Pass FIlter(LPE) but looking at other options. Using 4 subs and measuring the room is on list. It's a difficult room. FYI: I'm currently using the Vanguard british monitor inspired speakers designed by XRK and poorly reviewed here. They got a bad wrap here and brutal criticizm from trolls who said horrible things about XRK. My Vanguard speakers are excellent and measure differently. They don't test anything like the ones tested here. Sent a note to XRK about the review and he said there was a batch with faulty drivers early on and now they test all the drivers before they go in. He's tried to clear up the issue here and get them retested but got a cold shoulder. Too bad! These Vanguards are the best speakers I have heard in this room and they were really cheap. There's some other versions sold by Thomas In Audio at Gallion. He also has speaker designs sold at Verifi, & Underwood. I have followed XRKs work on the DIYAudio forum and I have had three of his amp designs built for me and one speaker design. He's some kind of NASA engineer! He has been very responsive to my questions and helped me build the amps and speakers. I appreciate that and want to see him get a fair shake on this form. I also want the people here to know about him and his products becasue they are worth knowing about and testing.
 
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