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Review: Apple vs Google USB-C Headphone Adapters

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Go Apple! Vastly better linearity than the DX3 Pro. :D
 

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It might be interesting to compare both of Apple’s $9 dongles.... this review is USB-C to 3.5mm (from a Windows PC), there’s also Lightning to 3.5mm (from a recent iPhone)
Would like to see that as well :)
 

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@amirm Do you have an Android phone with USB-C you can test this with? I've read that Android phones only recognize one sample rate on the built in driver and that the volume was quite low. Folks were unsuccessful at having any applications with a built in bit-perfect driver properly recognize the Apple dongle.
 

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@amirm Do you have an Android phone with USB-C you can test this with? I've read that Android phones only recognize one sample rate on the built in driver and that the volume was quite low. Folks were unsuccessful at having any applications with a built in bit-perfect driver properly recognize the Apple dongle.
He mentioned the volume issue in the initial post when testing with his Samsung S8+.
 
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Now please forgive me as I go drown out my sorrows as an ex-Microsoft guy having to recommend an Apple product....
:) I know you are being tongue in cheek but I do a lot of work with Microsoft and they are long over any issues with other technologies. I think it's a key reason for their massive success of late. There are more Linux servers in Azure than Windows and I just installed the latest version of Visual Studio for Macintosh yesterday :)
 

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This review further confirms the idea I tried to convey to users here --- laptop / phones / dongles today are so good that you don't even need a DAC/amp. This is especially true if you're using Apple's products (iPhone, Macbook Pro). In measurements those $1000 DACs may perform better, but your ear is not good enough to tell the difference in a blind test.

Also bear in mind these dongles have ADC feature as well.
It is one of the dirty secrets of audio that many devices have audibly transparent DACs and that if they are up to driving your headphones to the volume you want (and not all are with high impedance and inefficient headphones) then you really don't need a separate DAC. I use my Sony Xperia XZ Premium phone connecting headphones directly into its headphone jack and the sound quality is excellent. To be honest, when I've compared it with various external DACs I've never felt there was any need to get a separate unit although the volume can be a bit anaemic with less efficient headphones.
 

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Would pairing this with JDS Atom better than most dac/amp combo such as E10k, DFB etc?
The E10k just got upgraded to the K3 which I'm sure will be no slouch. An all-in-one is always handy in terms of footprint on your desk.

But in raw performance? Atom + decent DAC will be best value yes. You could use the apple usb-c until you buy a topping D50 or Khadas tone board or better if you ever feel like doing that :D the annoyance would be the 1V output rather than the average DAC's 2V line-out. You will need to go for high-gain mode much more quickly.
 

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Have you tried it on Android with an different app?
I have not. Is there a free one to try? Don't feel like spending money on USB Audio Player right now. :)
 

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Would pairing this with JDS Atom better than most dac/amp combo such as E10k, DFB etc?
It only has 1 volt output instead of usual 2 volts. So your gains on the amp will go down and won't be able to achieve maximum power on Atom.

Note everyone: you need USB 3.0 to use this. At least I couldn't get them to work with USB-2 ports.
 

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It might be interesting to compare both of Apple’s $9 dongles.... this review is USB-C to 3.5mm (from a Windows PC), there’s also Lightning to 3.5mm (from a recent iPhone)
Unless you can show me how I can get that one to run on Windows, it will be a pain to test.
 

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:) I know you are being tongue in cheek but I do a lot of work with Microsoft and they are long over any issues with other technologies. I think it's a key reason for their massive success of late. There are more Linux servers in Azure than Windows and I just installed the latest version of Visual Studio for Macintosh yesterday :)
Indeed. I was just having lunch with a Microsoft person and he was explaining the same to me.
 

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It would be fully destructive as I have to cut it open and likely damage it. So let's wait to make sure there are no other questions and then I might explore that.
 

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I have not. Is there a free one to try? Don't feel like spending money on USB Audio Player right now. :)
HibyMusic is free, albeit a bit buggy when I last tried it. It supports bit perfect, but didn't work when someone tried it with the Apple adapter. Myabe you will have better luck with your specific phone.
 
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