Review and Audio Measurement of LG G7 ThinQ Smartphone

[derp1n]

as it is pointless to continue to debate something which other parties do not understand.

10/10 for irony.

 

[restorer-john]

...Removing headphone jacks from phones doesn't help anyone...

This is the crux of the issue. The only reason jacks have been removed was to fatten Apple's already enormous cash reserves. There is no technical justification whatsoever that holds water.

I laugh to myself when I walk past the silly Apple Shop/Church in our local mall, packed with mindless followers, worshiping at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk whilst being surrounded by t-shirted clowns with silly name tags.

I still have my iPhone 4S (free from work way back). It won't die. But I just make calls (you know, talk to people) and text- there's not a single 'app' (program) in it, other than the stock crap I never look at.

Taking off the 3.5mm headphone jack just shows how little the company really cares for its customers.

 

[έχω δίκιο]

I never bought iPhones. Because they are garbage made for the uninformed sheep.

I guess that's why they are so popular among engineers in the aerospace industry -- we were just uninformed sheep. If only we'd had someone of your technical caliber to give us guidance.

 

[audiobill]

This is my last post on this matter, as it is pointless to continue to debate something which other parties do not understand.
Please do some research in the future if you wish to have an objective discussion on the matter.

I guess clueless rude stupidity is allowed here are long as they have made a donation. Not one word I have said is incorrect but you can post clear misinformation and nary a word is said. In the thread someone clearly tell you that the chips in the connector are a dac and amp, and explain that several brands use the same ones, as I explained Audeze does, and instead of saying thank you as you have learned something you did not know, you demand proof and continue posting misinformation. Now you are telling people that they need to do research. You need to learn etiquette and respect, as you have neither.

 

[maxxevv]

This is the crux of the issue. The only reason jacks have been removed was to fatten Apple's already enormous cash reserves. There is no technical justification whatsoever that holds water.

Indeed.

The excuses for things like waterproofing etc are lame at best as the 3.5mm jack can be made waterproof if they wanted to.

If they wanted to "save space" for a bigger battery or an overall thinner phone, why not go the full 100-yards and use 2.5mm TRRS balanced output?
(of course that's another story in itself, but that's just the argument against "space").

If some manufacturer really wanted to go socketless, they should use magnetic NFC adaptors on the phones for everything instead. That would be hard to argue against in the name of weatherproofness and aesthetics.

 

[audiobill]

This is the crux of the issue. The only reason jacks have been removed was to fatten Apple's already enormous cash reserves. There is no technical justification whatsoever that holds water.

I laugh to myself when I walk past the silly Apple Shop/Church in our local mall, packed with mindless followers, worshiping at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk whilst being surrounded by t-shirted clowns with silly name tags.

I still have my iPhone 4S (free from work way back). It won't die. But I just make calls (you know, talk to people) and text- there's not a single 'app' (program) in it, other than the stock crap I never look at.

Taking off the 3.5mm headphone jack just shows how little the company really cares for its customers.

All correct, Apple is out to maximize their bottom line,but the products are solid and do what they are designed to do. As to removing the headphone jack, I still use a phone with a headphone jack, but never use it. For music I use a DAP and for talk a Bluetooth headset.

 

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All correct, Apple is out to maximize their bottom line,but the products are solid and do what they are designed to do.

Exactly. Let's not turn Audio Science Review into the kind of site where people insult the intelligence and knowledge of others who prefer a different brand of computer or mobile phone.

 

[Wombat]

This is the crux of the issue. The only reason jacks have been removed was to fatten Apple's already enormous cash reserves. There is no technical justification whatsoever that holds water.

I laugh to myself when I walk past the silly Apple Shop/Church in our local mall, packed with mindless followers, worshiping at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk whilst being surrounded by t-shirted clowns with silly name tags.

I still have my iPhone 4S (free from work way back). It won't die. But I just make calls (you know, talk to people) and text- there's not a single 'app' (program) in it, other than the stock crap I never look at.

Taking off the 3.5mm headphone jack just shows how little the company really cares for its customers.

Geez, I don't even text. Otherwise the same on my old Galaxy S2 which remains in the house unless I am travelling away from home - sort of a portable home-phone.
Living in each others hands is not for me.

 

[έχω δίκιο]

Geez, I don't even text.

I text, but only because I can do it from my Macs and my iPad. Hate doing it on the little iPhone screen.

Otherwise the same on my old Galaxy S2 which remains in the house unless I am travelling away from home - sort of a portable home-phone.

Some of my friends can't seem to get it through their heads that I don't carry my phone with me everywhere I go. They can't imagine someone leaving a phone at home when they run to the grocery store, or having it on a charger on a different floor of the house. The idea of turning the ringer off, which I sometimes do, is totally alien to them.

I've told them all to not call me on it -- to call my landline (which forwards voicemail to me in emails), but they still occasionally call my iPhone. I normally answer it by shouting "What!?"

 

[restorer-john]

I text, but only because I can do it from my Macs and my iPad. Hate doing it on the little iPhone screen.

OK. Text out.

I've told them all to not call me on it -- to call my landline (which forwards voicemail to me in emails), but they still occasionally call my iPhone. I normally answer it by shouting "What!?"

OK. Phone calls out.

That's hilarious. So what do you use the shiny little 'phone' for- Angry Birds?

 

[Frank Dernie]

Most people don't 'travel on the Tube.' They drive their cars, with many opting to charge their phones and listen to music on their commute.
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I just plug my Apple charger cable into the USB socket in my car and listen to it on the car system if I want to but I don't often listen to music in my car.
Don't know how ham fisted some people must be with cables, maybe pulling the cable rather than the connector body, my Apple cables all still work fine even the oldest and until Apple functionally downgraded iTunes to prevent it I plugged in both my iPad and iPhone every morning to update apps and sync.

 

[Frank Dernie]

I text, but only because I can do it from my Macs and my iPad. Hate doing it on the little iPhone screen.



Some of my friends can't seem to get it through their heads that I don't carry my phone with me everywhere I go. They can't imagine someone leaving a phone at home when they run to the grocery store, or having it on a charger on a different floor of the house. The idea of turning the ringer off, which I sometimes do, is totally alien to them.

I've told them all to not call me on it -- to call my landline (which forwards voicemail to me in emails), but they still occasionally call my iPhone. I normally answer it by shouting "What!?"

How do you text on a Mac or iPad?
Mine don't have access to a phone signal so I can't.
I did notice a programme called iMessage is on by default but only discovered that after trying to meet my son at Heathrow airport using texts and getting no replies only to find all his messages on my Mac Pro when I started it up the following morning - all his "texts" had actually been iMessages which need an internet connection so I hadn't received them. I have now switched off iMessage on all my devices.
I deleted my email programme from my phone and have switched off most notifications to avoid being a phone zombie.
Text is the quickest way to get me, I hate phone calls since most people don't ask if they are interrupting something (they usually are) and launch into something expecting immediate answers, which aren't always possible and if they are leave no record of either question or answer or date, so useless.

 

[έχω δίκιο]

That's hilarious. So what do you use the shiny little 'phone' for- Angry Birds?

• My phone is for me to make phone calls from when I'm away from home -- not so that people can reach me 24/7 no matter where I am or what I am doing.
• It's great when I'm on a road trip
  • WAZE for GPS navigation
  • A way to make calls if I am delayed, in an accident, have a breakdown, etc.
• It's a convenient point and shoot camera with decent quality.
• It works great as a backup in case the GPS chartplotter fails in my boat, giving me position as well as bottom contours and depths.
• When I'm shopping, I can use it to see reviews and competing prices.
• It provides a way of recording conversations when things get sketchy in stores.
• Great way to pay with Apple Pay -- the merchant doesn't get my credit card number, so I don't have to worry about data breaches.
• It's an incredibly useful device -- if you set limits.

I just plug my Apple charger cable into the USB socket in my car and listen to it on the car system if I want to but I don't often listen to music in my car.

That's the perfect example: Plug the charging cable into the USB socket and connect the headphone output to the line-in on your car's head unit.

Don't know how ham fisted some people must be with cables, maybe pulling the cable rather than the connector body...

I've not had any problems with my cables either -- mostly because I know the difference between a cable and a rope, which many consumers don't. Part of being careful is not hanging too much weight on such a small connector and minimizing the number of plug/unplug cycles. When you start mixing in splitters and headphone dongles and headphone cables and charging cables, it's an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Frank Dernie]

That's the perfect example: Plug the charging cable into the USB socket and connect the headphone output to the line-in on your car's head unit.

WTF is a "head unit"? I only need the standard Apple cable and the music shows up on my car screen

 

[έχω δίκιο]

How do you text on a Mac or iPad? Mine don't have access to a phone signal so I can't.

The "Messages" app on the Mac can connect to your iPhone through a network connection allowing you to send and receive text messages.

I did notice a programme called iMessage is on by default but only discovered that after trying to meet my son at Heathrow airport using texts and getting no replies only to find all his messages on my Mac Pro when I started it up the following morning - all his "texts" had actually been iMessages which need an internet connection so I hadn't received them. I have now switched off iMessage on all my devices.

If someone sends an iMessage to me, it shows up on my iPhone, Macs, and my iPad Pro -- simultaneously. I can answer from any one of them. It doesn't require a cell phone connection, either. It also doesn't count against my metered (more I send, more I pay) SMS text message count.

I deleted my email programme from my phone and have switched off most notifications to avoid being a phone zombie. Text is the quickest way to get me, I hate phone calls since most people don't ask if they are interrupting something (they usually are) and launch into something expecting immediate answers, which aren't always possible and if they are leave no record of either question or answer or date, so useless.

You and I have more in common than I would have thought. I generally just ignore email on my phone -- unless there's something important that I'm waiting for that benefits me. Since I've told people to call my landline, which emails MP3s of voice mail they left, I occasionally check it for that if I'm away for an extended period of time.

When I see someone in the store talking on their cell phone while ignoring everyone around them, including the cashier that's ringing up their purchase, I just want to smack the sh*t out of them for being so rude. I want to tell them "The world is not your phone booth! If you want to talk on the phone, then go outside or sit in your car. I don't want to hear half of your annoying conversation as you yell into your phone."

 

[έχω δίκιο]

WTF is a "head unit"?

An automotive head unit, sometimes referred to as a deck, is a component of an automotive infotainment, which provides a unified hardware interface (mainly, the screen and buttons) for the entire system. Antiquated names for head unit are receiver, in-dash stereo or dash stereo.

I only need the standard Apple cable and the music shows up on my car screen

My vehicles do not all have an Apple interface. Some take a line input. My Infiniti G37X works great with an iPod Classic, but not so much with a new iPhone.

 

[Thomas savage]

This is the crux of the issue. The only reason jacks have been removed was to fatten Apple's already enormous cash reserves. There is no technical justification whatsoever that holds water.

I laugh to myself when I walk past the silly Apple Shop/Church in our local mall, packed with mindless followers, worshiping at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk whilst being surrounded by t-shirted clowns with silly name tags.

I still have my iPhone 4S (free from work way back). It won't die. But I just make calls (you know, talk to people) and text- there's not a single 'app' (program) in it, other than the stock crap I never look at.

Taking off the 3.5mm headphone jack just shows how little the company really cares for its customers.

Iv not got a iPhone but the less openings the better for me working in a dusty messy environment so I’d be in favour of scrapping the headphone jack.

 

[Frank Dernie]

The "Messages" app on the Mac can connect to your iPhone through a network connection allowing you to send and receive text messages.



If someone sends an iMessage to me, it shows up on my iPhone, Macs, and my iPad Pro -- simultaneously. I can answer from any one of them. It doesn't require a cell phone connection, either. It also doesn't count against my metered (more I send, more I pay) SMS text message count.

Ah there lies the difference. I only get iMessages to my phone if I have mobile data switched on which I almost never have since data is expensive here, or a wifi connection which is not common away from home. Unlimited texts are normally free on every contract here.

 

[έχω δίκιο]

Iv not got a iPhone...

It's nice to meet one of my fellow "mindless followers [who worships] at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk."

 

[restorer-john]

It's nice to meet one of my fellow mindless followers [who worships] at the bleached-ash altars, covered in locked-down, Big Brother controlled, shiny bits of disposable junk.

Here you go, being as you love my quote so much and can't seem to let it go.

If you build it, they will come!

Opening time at the zoo. Chapel with pews and congregation facing each other with the divine altar of 'geniuses' at the rear.

Reminds me of this (my old gothic-styled school chapel). Do you take this beautiful shiny object and promise to love, cherish and obey- and forsake all others as long as you both shall live? I do.

The Altar, (genius bar) is raised (to show superiority and boundless knowledge) and usually has a secret door off to the side, where your broken shiny object disappears with the priest (genius) and comes back magically (divinely) repaired.

It's a miracle! But sadly, it's not really a miracle- they just give you someone else's re-conditioned one, and deceive those customers about their consumer rights. So much so, they have been significantly fined by the Australian Government and must prominently display in stores and websites full Australian consumer rights for guarantees and remedies for poor/failed products). Their behaviour was dreadful for several years.

Get 'em young-build kid-size altars! This kid should be playing in a sandpit, eating snails and helping her mom bake cupcakes, not staring into an idiot screen that will give her eye-related issues before she's even ready for primary school. No, she doesn't need an iPad- ever heard of crayons and paper?

At least two staff per customer, even at the busiest times, one on each side and a bouncer at the door to make sure you've bought something before being let out. No-one leaves without putting something in the collection tray!

Or was that three staff per customer? I dunno, just brow-beat the poor lady with meaningless drivel and nebulous words like 'seamless', 'integration', 'creativity', 'eco-system' anything else to hide the fact they don't know one end of a computer from the other.

Maybe drag in a 'key note' speaker to talk about 'underwater healing' (taking pictures of people in a pool )- that'll work!

Give me a break!

PS. I'm having fun, don't take this too seriously. I too was suckered into the Apple walled maze and still have several remnants floating around this house that refuse to die. Most things (Macbook Air i7 TOTL+ 27" display and a few iPads) got sold before they became worthless. My boys still think their iPads are somewhat useful, but even they have moved onto real computers that offer value for money and class leading performance.

Don't want to threadjack Amir's review anymore.