Thanks for the reply. Undoubtedly, the implementation of amplifiers and crossovers is different, but the speakers and housings are identical. The sound will be different, but how critical is this difference for equalization, mixing, mastering?Is the price difference justified? What will the sound engineer be limited to if he does not upgrade to 8340?.But if you turn off the chipboard at 8340, put them next to 8040, who will win in the end? If the difference is not noticeable, I will not buy 8340, I will leave 8040, and use the free money for other equipment.
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As I already mentioned, this is not considered an upgrade price-wise.
It is the same range but a more flexible speaker.
For the sound it doesn't work that way, you cannot "turn off the chip",
it always goes through the digital process instead of being purely analog.
You talk about the amplifier and crossovers, like it is not a major difference.
Well, it is, literally a different type of amplifier, not a different amplifier of the same type,
with all the consequences in sound, as well as the crossover makes a difference.
So in 8340 you pay for the extra power, more connections, dsp flexibility, technology support, more modern design.
If you are planning to replace an old 8040 with a similar but more modern, go for it.
But I wouldn't consider it a sound upgrade, for the sound upgrade go for the coax Genelecs.
Not really, no. The 8340 uses a DSP crossover and has GLM built in, but otherwise it uses the same drivers and crossover points as the 8040.
Overall fine. They're expensive considering their competition is mostly compact 3-way designs (KH310, Core 47, Mesanovic CDM65).
An interesting fact about the PMC 6 is its position setting. These speakers can work in either a vertical or horizontal position. When the position changes, the speaker automatically detects it and adjusts the crossover settings (I believe the crossover shifts to a higher frequency when placed horizontally).
Switching between the left and right speaker is also required, similar to the setup of the 6-2 with the TL port facing inward.
And wow, in the horizontal position, the stereo image wraps around the listener in a way I’ve never experienced before!
Interestingly, most shops usually place them vertically, which, in my opinion, is not the optimal setup for these speakers. It also doesn’t allow for a fair comparison with the 6-2, which are typically placed horizontally.
Anyway, I got them for 4k—a fair price for this pair of monitors.
Switching between the left and right speaker is also required, similar to the setup of the 6-2 with the TL port facing inward.
And wow, in the horizontal position, the stereo image wraps around the listener in a way I’ve never experienced before!
Interestingly, most shops usually place them vertically, which, in my opinion, is not the optimal setup for these speakers. It also doesn’t allow for a fair comparison with the 6-2, which are typically placed horizontally.
Anyway, I got them for 4k—a fair price for this pair of monitors.
Results cost half of kh310
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It is highly plausible that there are people who like one speaker over the other, since they will interact differently with the room and placement. They also have different strengths and weaknesses, so why do you think that no one will prefer the PMC?
It is a pity that there is no opportunity to test, work on result 6 and 8040 at the same time. If everything is clear with genelec and there are measurements of various models with a very good rating on the forum, then the PMC models that have been tested have a low rating. But specifically, pmc result 6 is highly praised by many third-party reviewers and elevated to the rank of more expensive systems.In some reviews, the r6 is compared with the genelec 8340 because they are in the same price category, the reviewer writes that the buyer will not make a mistake choosing any of them, but he prefers genelec. There is an opportunity to buy result 6, but it is not entirely clear what I will get as a result.
I've used both. The Genelec crushes the Result6. Coincidentally, the Result6 is one of the worst speakers PMC has sold as a monitor.
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There are many different categories where one speaker is better or different than the other. Especially musicians are often choosing a speaker which is very good at one specific thing.
Like a drummer who wants a speaker which can handle the recording of a drumm well and therefore has to have a lot of clean dynamic. In this specific category they probably don't choose a small Genelec speakers since there are other speakers which can handle much more dynamics for its size.
There are thousands of such categories which all need different types of measurements to see on paper which speaker might be good in this category.
Some of these measurements which are need aren't even available like the individual pair matching or some more exotic ones like impulse measurements like TIM.
So most of the recommendations are a bit stupid here since they exclude speakers which aren't excellent in one type of measurement like the amplitude frequency response. But you often can change this amplitude frequency response easily to some extent with an equalizer. Other distortions like dynamic compression or intermodulation distortion can't be changed and might be much more important for the individual person.
Thank you. This is very important to me. I'm used to the 8040 and it seems like there's an opportunity to upgrade the speakers. The candidates were just result 6,8050,8340. 8050 was preferred because they have a more complete frequency spectrum, but I have a room of 18 square meters, which is not enough for them. 8340 seems superfluous in my case. I have an audio interface with only an analog connection, I cannot use a subwoofer, I use no more than two speakers, and they are very similar in characteristics to the 8040.There were doubts about Result 6, but now I am inclined to believe that they are really worse than 8040.
I'm also considering an additional pair of monitors. If I leave the 8040, then I choose between genelec 8030 and Neumann kh80 for use on the way.. On the one hand, the Neumann kh80 is preferable, since two pairs of monitors will have a different character, but on the other hand, it seems to me that the genelec 8030 will be more reliable.
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