New Neumann NDH30 coming

[KehaDNb]

Guys, guys I’ve ordered the ndh 30 today straight on the way to oratory

 

[staticV3]

Guys, guys I’ve ordered the ndh 30 today straight on the way to oratory

Than you for your contribution.

 

[KehaDNb]

Than you for your contribution.

Of course. I’ll do it as a thank you and of course contribution. He measured a lot of headphones for me in the past. He would be very happy to get his hands on the new ndh 30

 

[Matias]

Headphonecheck test

Interesting, they chose zero pinna gain for the headphone, following a tradicional descending slope of the MLP from speakers in a room.

 

[Vitali]

Interesting, they chose zero pinna gain for the headphone, following a tradicional descending slope of the MLP from speakers in a room.

I would like to see more measurements, including Waterfall.

 

[solderdude]

The rumors are the NDH30 is based on a (slightly modified in damping) HD560S (= HD400 Pro) driver below a very low res comparison on the same fixture.

Below vs the very well known HD650

 

[KehaDNb]

The rumors are the NDH30 is based on a (slightly modified in damping) HD560S (= HD400 Pro) driver below a very low res comparison on the same fixture.

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Below vs the very well known HD650

Im nevertheless interested to see oratory’s opinion on it

 

[KehaDNb]

The sample unit as oratory told me is faulty. The left/right response was out of Balance and were not meating the production Standards, so the measurement is out of tolerances to make a public conclusion . Hope u all can wait a Bit longer, we booth are interested un getting an second unit and oratory is contact with Neumanns technical support

)))

 

[staticV3]

I saw the measurement and I hope that both sides are broken

 

[KehaDNb]

I saw the measurement and I hope that both sides are broken

What??

 

[nyxnyxnyx]

neumann's headphones service is really underwhelming imo. me and many others contacted them for additional information and pad replacements and they really weren't helpful at all.
hope this ndh30 is their better attempt to revise their small chance of making a footprint in the headphones market.

 

[KehaDNb]

We managed now to send the unit back and get a replacement.

 

[KehaDNb]

it takes time. Stay patient. Soon. We think next week we gonna sort it out

 

[KehaDNb]

The rumors are the NDH30 is based on a (slightly modified in damping) HD560S (= HD400 Pro) driver below a very low res comparison on the same fixture.

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Below vs the very well known HD650

If you compare to audeze I think in this particular range it will hit

 

[solderdude]

If you compare to audeze I think in this particular range it will hit

Nah... the Audeze is much darker sounding. I would expect a HD560S with the overly bright part removed.

 

[KehaDNb]

Nah... the Audeze is much darker sounding. I would expect a HD560S with the overly bright part removed.

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Yes but speaking of the bass response

 

[tknx]

Not a good look for Neumann to be sending out defective headphones. NDH30 is the one I was hoping to be an improved HD8## to pull the trigger on.

 

[solderdude]

Yes but speaking of the bass response

a 200mW 38mm dynamic driver in an open system will be no match in bass response to a semi-open 5W+ 100mm planar driver I am afraid.
At least... not at a bit more impressive levels.
Besides... the Audeze has no slope between 100Hz and 1kHz where the NDH-30 seems to have a 4dB 'warmth' slope and less bass extension acc. to headphone check's comparative measurements.

 

[nyxnyxnyx]

a 200mW 38mm dynamic driver in an open system will be no match in bass response to a semi-open 5W+ 100mm planar driver I am afraid.
At least... not at a bit more impressive levels.
Besides... the Audeze has no slope between 100Hz and 1kHz where the NDH-30 seems to have a 4dB 'warmth' slope and less bass extension acc. to headphone check's comparative measurements.

What is the strongest/most impressive type(s) of dynamic drivers have you seen?
IIRC the theory proposed is the more air the driver can push plus how accurate/in-tact the driver can move = more impressive and more "realism"?

 

[solderdude]

IIRC the theory proposed is the more air the driver can push plus how accurate/in-tact the driver can move = more impressive and more "realism"?

That does not explain IEM drivers.
There are good sounding 30mm dynamics and poor sounding 50mm drivers (and larger).
Maybe size doesn't matter ... that much .... ehmmm in the world of headphone drivers ...
NDH30 driver = 38mm