benanders
Senior Member
I mean, if we’re commandeering a band name to promote single-company coolness despite said band generally being against that…
If it gets me kicked, okay.
If it gets me kicked, okay.
This is a gear-envy thread, 'paired' with SOS' gear-envy award.As far as I can see (?) SOS hasn't reviewed the 8381A, so how do they know it's the best studio monitor?
"These results celebrate the ‘best in class’ products launched or reviewed(..) ". So basically anything they think looks cool?
I don’t understand these terms honestly. In my 20+ years of buying and listening to audio equipment nothing has hit me emotionally like the first time I heard a pair of 8351. It might have been a confluence of circumstances in my case but really nothing hits that directly.They’re probably missing the sense of envelopment a wide dispersion speaker gives.
Really was just a shot in the dark about what they meant by “emotion”. Kinda the same reason the Salon 2 was preferred over the M2 in that shootout…Toole predicted the outcome based on the wider dispersion.I don’t understand these terms honestly. In my 20+ years of buying and listening to audio equipment nothing has hit me emotionally like the first time I heard a pair of 8351. It might have been a confluence of circumstances in my case but really nothing hits that directly.
Maybe I need a lesson on what is envelopment and what it sounds like?
Really was just a shot in the dark about what they meant by “emotion”. Kinda the same reason the Salon 2 was preferred over the M2 in that shootout…Toole predicted the outcome based on the wider dispersion.
Hot topic on ASR, lol.So necessarily you want first reflection points? Or is it a matter of treating all side walls with 3D diffusers at least to sort of break up the reflections?
For example my side walls are 15 feet away on both sides. If I get a speaker with wider dispersion I guess it will hit the back wall and bounce around everywhere and give me that sense of “envelopmemt” It seems to me that if you want envelopment then you need to hire an acoustician to avoid a single point reflection that would create a second apparent sound source. Maybe people prefer having that second slightly delayed apparent source?
The "studio monitor look" is not a functional requirement, but it matters a lot for their main customers - actual professional studios.Best maybe, but they are very ugly.
OrThe "studio monitor look" is not a functional requirement, but it matters a lot for their main customers - actual professional studios.
Clients want to come in and see serious equipment. If you walk into a studio that costs you $200/hr and it looks like somebody's living room, you're not going to feel at all confident that your money is going to good use.
Pro gear needs to look visually distinct from consumer gear, because it's supposed to play a different role. In reality we know this isn't really true, but I am sure Genelec would lose business if this thing looked like a Dali or Revel speaker.
Studio mains are soffit mounted most of the times,these are for the special cases that can't be done.The "studio monitor look" is not a functional requirement, but it matters a lot for their main customers - actual professional studios.
Clients want to come in and see serious equipment. If you walk into a studio that costs you $200/hr and it looks like somebody's living room, you're not going to feel at all confident that your money is going to good use.
Pro gear needs to look visually distinct from consumer gear, because it's supposed to play a different role. In reality we know this isn't really true, but I am sure Genelec would lose business if this thing looked like a Dali or Revel speaker.
I appreciate the fact that you're willing to be banned because of me .I mean, if we’re commandeering a band name to promote single-company coolness despite said band generally being against that…
If it gets me kicked, okay.
Oh, I don't know, a grille, a few curves on the housing, and a car paint or wood veneer finish, and you could really give this thing a different look. Just keep the drivers and baffle edges in the same place, and you can still do a lot with it.This model Especially is practically impossible to make prettier than it is
Yeha but if they cost $64K now...imagine how much they would cost if they applied your suggestionsOh, I don't know, a grille, a few curves on the housing, and a car paint or wood veneer finish, and you could really give this thing a different look. Just keep the drivers and baffle edges in the same place, and you can still do a lot with it.
$100,000Yeha but if they cost $64K now...imagine how much they would cost if they applied your suggestions
Judging by the above (metallic? ) PCMs,more (140k$ each)$100,000
Hot topic on ASR, lol.
Some here feel first reflections should be damped, some (Toole and maybe Amir included, I think) feel it’s not necessary and is maybe detrimental to the stereo experience. One caveat, the speakers need to have good off/axis performance, as in even dispersion and a similar tonality to the on-axis response. Speakers with poor off-axis performance absolutely need reflections damped for best experience.
Very tough in a small room.i think the points made by those who favor first reflections is that, in addition to being similar in tone, they are delayed by a certain minimum amount. that is posited as allowing the brain to sort them out as indirect. perhaps the time delay interval is precisely that amount of time the brain needs to process what is going on.
Unless the studio uses B&W hahaThe "studio monitor look" is not a functional requirement, but it matters a lot for their main customers - actual professional studios.
Clients want to come in and see serious equipment. If you walk into a studio that costs you $200/hr and it looks like somebody's living room, you're not going to feel at all confident that your money is going to good use.
Pro gear needs to look visually distinct from consumer gear, because it's supposed to play a different role. In reality we know this isn't really true, but I am sure Genelec would lose business if this thing looked like a Dali or Revel speaker.
Okay +$10k to domesticate it for the audiophiles. Actually yeah why not just double the price for wood trim. Like some of these cars +5000 for wood trim. +$10000 for carbon fiber. +$10000 for leather dash. EtcOh, I don't know, a grille, a few curves on the housing, and a car paint or wood veneer finish, and you could really give this thing a different look. Just keep the drivers and baffle edges in the same place, and you can still do a lot with it.