Legal fund for Reviewers/Erin?

[RayDunzl]

 

[Old Iron]

How would that change anything? It'd just start the whole thing all over again.

The obvious choice for ASR members is to not buy from Tekton until they submit -all by themselves- a speaker to be reviewed. It "seems" that's the way things are headed. As I said before, it seems there's an agreement in place and the current ASR hostility is probably not helping things. Let those involved deal with it in a hopefully constructive way.

I admit I have not followed all the posts. That would be the best.

 

[Chrispy]

FWIW it's back up at AH, apparently a rogue mod banned tekton....may have to sign in again to see it.

 

[Emlin]

But here, Tekton seem to be the deviants, from natural justice, at least.

 

[Old Iron]

On that note. I live in Maryland. I have a UPS shipping account with Light freight as well.
I would be willing to help with shipping to members for reviews.

 

[Emlin]

On that note. I live in Maryland. I have a UPS shipping account with Light freight as well.
I would be willing to help with shipping to members for reviews.

I feel that that is missing the point. The review has been done. The right to publish it is what is at stake here.

 

[No one who matters]

How would that change anything? It'd just start the whole thing all over again.

The obvious choice for ASR members is to not buy from Tekton until they submit -all by themselves- a speaker to be reviewed. It "seems" that's the way things are headed. As I said before, it seems there's an agreement in place and the current ASR hostility is probably not helping things. Let those involved deal with it in a hopefully constructive way.

Isn’t that the thing now? If someone has a product they’re proud of, they submit to ASR (and the others who do objective testing, BTW), and let the product stand on its merits?

There’s nothing to be afraid of, unless you’re trying to sell an inferior product for a premium price.

Other attributes beyond tech specs matter. As an example, I’m in the market for an end-game rig. I’ve decided I want active speakers [cough, Genelec]. And I want a preamp DAC with HDMI, two toslink and two coax ins. I want transparent SINAD and don’t want DSP (already baked in to the Genelecs).

But it ain’t there yet, or at least in a non-usurious price, at least insofar as I’m aware. So the tech specs of the top players, impressive as they are, don’t quite get me to a buying decision.

And that’s the use case argument all the players should play for, IMHO. The specs are simply table stakes thanks to ASR and the others.

Time for all to acknowledge reality.

 

[Somafunk]

Tekton hasn't got four rubber feet to stand on.

From where I’m sitting I can see clown shoes

 

[kemmler3D]

The obvious choice for ASR members is to not buy from Tekton until they submit -all by themselves- a speaker to be reviewed.

Eh, it would take more than that from me. An honest apology & explanation, a genuine attempt to make amends with Erin / Amir, and submitting a speaker, AND the speaker measures excellently, and I'd start to maybe think about it.

If Eric grits his teeth and curses under his breath and sends in a speaker because he thinks that's his path back to respectability, that's not enough. That could just be a cynical tactic, not a show of good faith, which is what we're really missing here.

 

[Chrispy]

From where I’m sitting I can see clown shoes

OTOH those could make great speaker footers.

 

[Emlin]

OTOH those could make great speaker footers.

Only if the company would remove the clown.

 

[Chrispy]

Only if the company would remove the clown.

? Was more thinking could help with waf with such goofy looking speakers as the Tekton bessel array models, thinking clown feet would be fitting. OTOH could just help with WAF in general for speakers if that sort of humor would help

 

[kemmler3D]

unless you’re trying to sell an inferior product for a premium price

May I introduce you to... most of the high-end Audio industry?

Other attributes beyond tech specs matter. As an example, I’m in the market for an end-game rig. I’ve decided I want active speakers [cough, Genelec]. And I want a preamp DAC with HDMI, two toslink and two coax ins. I want transparent SINAD and don’t want DSP (already baked in to the Genelecs).

Very fair if that's what you need in the system. HDMI you can find, (it's less common because there is licensing involved) and 2x toslink + 2x coax is quite unusual. I think you can probably get it done with some coax / toslink 2-in-1-out boxes or whatever, but that may lack the elegance you're looking for.

 

[voodooless]

Tekton bessel array models

They are not Bessel arrays!

 

[anotherhobby]

Pretty happy with Gene's response on the AH thread...

 

[Chrispy]

They are not Bessel arrays!

Close enough for a patent?

 

[kemmler3D]

Pretty happy with Gene's response on the AH thread...

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It really is nice to see the reviewer community showing solidarity like this.

 

[Emlin]

Close enough for a patent?

That's patent nonsense!

 

[mmeysarosh]

Same reply was posted on Youthman's audio channel. Its what I believe what one might call, damage control.​

@TektonDesign​

10 minutes ago
Would the Troubadour review be live today if it didn't contain any provable mistakes?

Yes- absolutely! Here are the facts... I am protecting my brand and I have no problem with a review [good or bad] so long as it doesn't contain any mistakes. The review contained a couple of measurement mistakes based on a couple of simple oversights. In all fairness to Erin, the Troubadour is a unique loudspeaker that would throw the best acoustical measurement experts a bit of a curve ball - the speaker is even unique to the point of being allowed a US patent.

The measurement oversights have been talked about between Erin and I and Erin has agreed to remeasure the speaker. I respectfully asked Erin to pull his review temporarily and we're working together to ensure the measurements he publishes are accurate.

I believe we've got everything figured out and expect his review to be published again soon.

Eric Alexander
President Tekton Design. LLC

 

[Chrispy]

Or just lazy.