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KEF LS60 Wireless Just Announced

These wireless speakers should rely on a platform agnostic web page. Easier than maintaining an app for multiple OS's, and presumably easier to roll out (and roll back) enhancements.

Totally agree. I do have a networked integrated amp that I like a lot... *but* the entire feature set is *not* available via the minimalist device web page. Stuff like sub crossover frequency and several other things can't be set - you have to use the -now no longer maintained- app, which at some point in time will no longer work a few android versions down the road. Also, direct support for streaming services -which were originally there- no longer work.

I am not saying the same will happen to the LS50W/LS60, just sharing that that's a concern I now have with those devices. I'd rather have a separate intelligent frontend DAC/Streamer. Ideally not very expensive, so I can toss it away whenever too much functionality stops being supported in a straight-forward way.
 
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Totally agree. I do have a networked integrated amp that I like a lot... *but* the entire feature set is *not* available via the minimalist device web page. Stuff like sub crossover frequency and several other things can't be set - you have to use the -now no longer maintained- app, which at some point in time will no longer work a few android versions down the road. Also, direct support for streaming services -which were originally there- no longer work.

I am not saying the same will happen to the LS50W/LS60, just sharing that that's a concern I now have with those devices. I'd rather have a separate intelligent frontend DAC/Streamer. Ideally not very extensive, so I can toss it away whenever too much functionality stops being supported in a straight-forward way.
This is one thing that Dutch&Dutch have done quite well now. The phone app is basically just an HTML5 wrapper, and you get the same interface with all the features if you use a browser directly on the web interface on the speakers.
 
This is one thing that Dutch&Dutch have done quite well now. The phone app is basically just an HTML5 wrapper, and you get the same interface with all the features if you use a browser directly on the web interface on the speakers.
Agreed. But a browser interface is still less user friendly than an app.
 
At that point, don't update the app.
yep- keep an old phone with no service around if you have to lol
also I would hope that at that point a company like kef might consider opensourcing or at least documenting the api for controlling the device!
 
If you ever want to configure the network settings without using the app, you can directly connect via the web client. This will appear on the IP address the speakers are occupying. If the device isn't on a network, it will be broadcasting its own WiFi network. If it isn't, factory resetting will revert it to a state where it is broadcast it's own network.
the only thing the web page is missing is the ability to set the active input- that's really all I need kef connect for, everything else I could do on the device page there . . . .
 
I thought the LS60 had a remote control? Can't you set the active input with the remote?
Yes but it’s not possible to alter any settings with the remote . It provides source switching and volume, suppose it also skips ( but I haven’t used the streaming in my speakers ) .

It’s the same remote as for example the LSXii but it actually works better on the LS60 ? Better ir reciever more responsive software on faster cpu who knows ?
 
If you ever want to configure the network settings without using the app, you can directly connect via the web client. This will appear on the IP address the speakers are occupying. If the device isn't on a network, it will be broadcasting its own WiFi network. If it isn't, factory resetting will revert it to a state where it is broadcast it's own network.
Yep a bit limited in what it can do ... ? network settings name and firmware good .
No actual speaker settings ? or controls ?
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Yep a bit limited in what it can do ... ? network settings name and firmware good .
No actual speaker settings ? or controls ?
Apparently you have to dedicate a phone/tablet or some digital device to it to access the settings. I am not somewhere to be able to do that (a phone signal doesn't happen within or around most of my house), making it more challenging that I want to deal wit (although I like these LS60's pretty well, particularly with subwoofers (which is how I have been running my system since the 1980's anyway)
I have been shown how it can be done but I am not into doing the effort that it takes. If all could be accessed by a remote with a screen for a couple of $100.00 more, then...
But we are not the market, so...
 
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Apparently you have to dedicate a phone/tablet or some digital device to it to access the settings. I am not somewhere to be able to do that (a phone signal doesn't happen within or around most of my house), making it more challenging that I want to deal wit (although I like these LS60's pretty well, particularly with subwoofers (which is how I have been running my system since the 1980's anyway)
I have been shown how it can be done but I am not into doing the effort that it takes. If all could be accessed by a remote with a screen for a couple of $100,00 more, then...
But we are not the market, so...

If you connect the speakers to your network, you can use your tablet/iPad that is on the same network after initial setup there is no direct connection as I understand it ?

Actually I don’t know how the phone I initially used picked up the speaker :) it just did , if someone knows please inform us .
 
Apparently you have to dedicate a phone/tablet or some digital device to it to access the settings. I am not somewhere to be able to do that (a phone signal doesn't happen within or around most of my house),
You just need Wifi, LTE or whatever is not necessary.

I think the intended usage is just to have the KEF app on your 'daily driver' smartphone.
 
If you connect the speakers to your network, you can use your tablet/iPad that is on the same network after initial setup there is no direct connection as I understand it ?

Actually I don’t know how the phone I initially used picked up the speaker :) it just did , if someone knows please inform us .
No network (perhaps among some of the stereo gear itself, one could have one).

If the phone only has a signal when it is being held in the air at a certain spot on the outside of the house deck (and that is the only place that a cellphone signal is of sufficient strength to use the cellphone as a cellphone), can said cellphone still connect to the LS60 in a way that makes it viable to use?
 
No network (perhaps among some of the stereo gear itself, one could have one).

If the phone only has a signal when it is being held in the air at a certain spot on the outside of the house deck (and that is the only place that a cellphone signal is of sufficient strength to use the cellphone as a cellphone), can said cellphone still connect to the LS60 in a way that makes it viable to use?
If there's no wifi in the house then I don't think you can use the app with the speakers...

I guess you're using a wired connection at home (you had to post this somehow) but it's not easy to get the phone connected to ethernet. A really small and basic wifi router would cost you much less than $100 secondhand and you could use that just for this purpose... I guess it's a little clunky for the purpose, but certainly viable.
 
If there's no wifi in the house then I don't think you can use the app with the speakers...

I guess you're using a wired connection at home (you had to post this somehow) but it's not easy to get the phone connected to ethernet. A really small and basic wifi router would cost you much less than $100 secondhand and you could use that just for this purpose... I guess it's a little clunky for the purpose, but certainly viable.
Many devices have an access point with their own SSID built in though. Whether you use it or not is choice. The built in SSID could be used for initial discovery, but that seems a questionable design for several reasons (but that's how my IA was unless you used Ethernet initially).
 
Many devices have an access point with their own SSID built in though. Whether you use it or not is choice. The built in SSID could be used for initial discovery, but that seems a questionable design for several reasons (but that's how my IA was unless you used Ethernet initially).
Yeah, I am not sure if the LS60 has that? I guess it's possible though. I just set up some cameras that worked that way.
 
If there's no wifi in the house then I don't think you can use the app with the speakers...

I guess you're using a wired connection at home (you had to post this somehow) but it's not easy to get the phone connected to ethernet. A really small and basic wifi router would cost you much less than $100 secondhand and you could use that just for this purpose... I guess it's a little clunky for the purpose, but certainly viable.
I have a cellphone WiFi cannister sitting out on my deck on something that gives it the height that it need to be in the spot that it needs to be. It's not something that can just be left outside in the elements. & if you fabricate some kind of box around it, the signal will not get through it.
Money is not an issue but PAIN-IN-THE-BUTT to implement is an issue.
Maybe MoFi 888. Maybe just wait (I am NOT unhappy) with what I have. (Without my pair of subs, I wasn't as happy as I am now).
 
If there's no wifi in the house then I don't think you can use the app with the speakers...

I guess you're using a wired connection at home (you had to post this somehow) but it's not easy to get the phone connected to ethernet. A really small and basic wifi router would cost you much less than $100 secondhand and you could use that just for this purpose... I guess it's a little clunky for the purpose, but certainly viable.
it does not need to be wifi i use ethernet to my speakers ( and almost anything else non mobile and stationary )
 
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