On WBF, a new thread with some thoughts worth considering on the matter ... http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...mpression-can-actually-be-good-for-our-health.
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Interesting dynamic range post
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We are all banned from there mate.. Reading there aggravates my IBS.
He is saying that if dynamic range of classical music is too high, then he doesn't know how to set his volume level. That by bringing the peaks and lows closer together, the experience can be better. And he bought a plug-in to do that.
I can see his point and that is one of the reasons compression is used.
My view is different though. I like it when music goes from quiet to bang loud!
It tells me that what I spent so much money on, does work better than a clock radio in that regard.
Still I get this point.
I can see his point and that is one of the reasons compression is used.
My view is different though. I like it when music goes from quiet to bang loud!
It tells me that what I spent so much money on, does work better than a clock radio in that regard. Still I get this point.
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I agree! Except, if the real thing is triggering a reaction in one's ears then it's worth considering whether some method of adjusting the experience is warranted ...My view is different though. I like it when music goes from quiet to bang loud!
I am with you amir, light frames shade.. The loud is rendered spectacular by the quite that preceded it.He is saying that if dynamic range of classical music is too high, then he doesn't know how to set his volume level. That by bringing the peaks and lows closer together, the experience can be better. And he bought a plug-in to do that.
I can see his point and that is one of the reasons compression is used.
My view is different though. I like it when music goes from quiet to bang loud!
Still I get this point.
Contrast is the mechanism to celebrate extrems .
Try the Redwood Symphony - Rite of Spring - Stravinsky
Here's a performance, doubt it is the recording above - if you can't wait, crank it up and start at 11:00, as an example.
From CD, the whole disc shown:
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... and, it can be the other way 'round,
I have this release, https://www.discogs.com/Various-Geo...-De-Jeanne-And-Les-Mariés-De-/release/4618434, which seems to have considerably more punch ...
I have this release, https://www.discogs.com/Various-Geo...-De-Jeanne-And-Les-Mariés-De-/release/4618434, which seems to have considerably more punch ...
Speedskater
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At the FM classical music broadcast station, compression & limiting were always problems. We had Orban or CBS compressor/limiters, the limiting was required by FCC rules so we had to live with it. If we set the overall volume & compression low, we would get complaints from listeners with portable or car radios. If we raised the volume & compression we would get complaints from the serious listeners.
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Largest issue with music production today is too much compression... but a night mode could be a good thing if you worry about disturbing sleeping family members or neighbors. But it should definitely be an option at the user end - not done for us by the music industry.
It would be a good thing if records/cd:s were labeled, though... things like 1812 with real cannons could be dangerous to your system if overplayed unaware, took me a few repetitions to dare myself up towards full subwoofer excursion level.
It would be a good thing if records/cd:s were labeled, though... things like 1812 with real cannons could be dangerous to your system if overplayed unaware, took me a few repetitions to dare myself up towards full subwoofer excursion level.
I remember being so scared of the Telarc 1812 with that warning that I never hardly played it! Did anyone really blow up their systems using that CD???
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I would not recomment it on a pair of TAG/McLaren Audio F1 speakers, I know of a pair of those that was damaged due to a similarly difficult signal.
No but my wife was upstairs when I first played it and she came running down thinking that the boiler had exploded.
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He is saying that if dynamic range of classical music is too high, then he doesn't know how to set his volume level. That by bringing the peaks and lows closer together, the experience can be better. And he bought a plug-in to do that.
I can see his point and that is one of the reasons compression is used.
My view is different though. I like it when music goes from quiet to bang loud!
Still I get this point.
How does he deal with going to the orchestra? Is there an app for that? You plug in your headphones to the iPhone and then turn on it's mic?
I simply built a system that can handle the DR without puking on itself.
watchnerd
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Software-based compressors are nothing new. They've been standard plugins for DAWs for donkey years.
This is old news.
The fact that the people at WBF are acting like it's some kind of discovery just shows, once again, how ignorant audiophiles are of pretty typical best practices or known standards in the recording and production industry.
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Yeah, I did, in college, with some vintage 1970s Yamahas and a then-current Denon integrated amp.
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That Telarc was nothing. When in college a friend down the hall had a terrible time getting up for early classes. He was so hard to awaken. He asked a couple people each morning to call and let the phone ring till he answered. That was not fully effective. So we helped him out. He had a couple of those big Pioneer HPM100 speakers. We tapped the ringer circuit in his phone and fed it to the receiver he had. We did pad it somewhat so as not to guarantee it blew up immediately. Man when we called him it woke him up and everyone about 3 rooms in each direction. The stereo store only replaced the speakers a couple times that year. I was impressed.
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