Infinity R162 Bookshelf Speaker Review

[diablo900t]

I'd also be interested in a test of the RS152s. I use them as side surrounds. They definitely aren't to the level of the RC263 or R162, but I'd be interested to see their measurements nonetheless.

 

[Dianoda]

My 7.1 HT setup includes the R263, RC263, R152, and RS152. Attached are the Audyssey pre-correction measurements taken from the main listening position for the R263 (this speaker is just a few inches away from the wall, so plenty of bass reinforcement), R152 (on a stand about two feet from the wall, mic height was in line with the woofer), RS152 (the RS152 is wall-mounted, mic position was on axis horizontally with one of the two tweeters and a bit below it). You can and should probably ignore anything below 500Hz, as response there is more room than speaker, and these were taken with an uncalibrated Audyssey mic - but they should give you an idea of the performance. The R263 towers are great, they are a 3-way design that matches very well with the RC263 center (same woofers and tweeter, but with a slightly larger midwoofer than the center). As for the RS152's, I'm willing to recommend them assuming you can get them at the sale price and have either wide or deep seating, but overall, if you have the space for the R152's instead, you might as well go with the more conventional design.

 

[Alice of Old Vincennes]

My 7.1 HT setup includes the R263, RC263, R152, and RS152. Attached are the Audyssey pre-correction measurements taken from the main listening position for the R263 (this speaker is just a few inches away from the wall, so plenty of bass reinforcement), R152 (on a stand about two feet from the wall, mic height was in line with the woofer), RS152 (the RS152 is wall-mounted, mic position was on axis horizontally with one of the two tweeters and a bit below it). You can and should probably ignore anything below 500Hz, as response there is more room than speaker, and these were taken with an uncalibrated Audyssey mic - but they should give you an idea of the performance. The R263 towers are great, they are a 3-way design that matches very well with the RC263 center (same woofers and tweeter, but with a slightly larger midwoofer than the center). As for the RS152's, I'm willing to recommend them assuming you can get them at the sale price and have either wide or deep seating, but overall, if you have the space for the R152's instead, you might as well go with the more conventional design.

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I used the same setup and calibrated with Anthem 520. Result was wonderful.

 

[diablo900t]

I would run, don't walk, to go check out the sale Harman has today. The R263 towers are on sale for $199 ea!

 

[Alice of Old Vincennes]

I would run, don't walk, to go check out the sale Harman has today. The R263 towers are on sale for $199 ea!

I have a pair. Buy them.

 

[Alice of Old Vincennes]

Harmon claimed this speaker was discontinued. This site is changing their minds. We need a 283.

 

[richard12511]

I would run, don't walk, to go check out the sale Harman has today. The R263 towers are on sale for $199 ea!

Wow! Such a good price I had to buy a pair, and I don't even have a room to put them in anymore. Would they work in a garage? or is that too hot?

Right now I've got the JBL 308ps in one office, 305ps in another office, Revel M105s in master bedroom, Infinity Beta 20s in one of the guest bedrooms, and JTR towers in the main room. Maybe they can replace one of those other setups if they sound better. I need to do a shootout with everything I have to figure out my preference and figure out what should go where.

 

[Jh5]

Here is how I would propose to do it in order to remove brightness and correct PIR linearity in general:

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Can anybody know how to get the preference score after equalizing like this?

 

[QMuse]

Can anybody know how to get the preference score after equalizing like this?

@MZKM can do it, so try asking him nicely..

Here's how Listening window and Predicted in-room response are looking after correction.

This filter requires 0dB of attenuation meaning that no frequency has been boosted.

 

[Jh5]

@MZKM can do it, so try asking him nicely..

Thank u

 

[QMuse]

Thank u

NP

 

[QMuse]

@MZKM can do it, so try asking him nicely..

Here's how Listening window and Predicted in-room response are looking after correction.

This filter requires 0dB of attenuation meaning that no frequency has been boosted.

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@edechamps , do you have a means and will to calculate preference rating for this EQ? I think it would be an interesting experiment due to it's very good DI curves.

 

[spacevector]

@MZKM can do it, so try asking him nicely..

Here's how Listening window and Predicted in-room response are looking after correction.

This filter requires 0dB of attenuation meaning that no frequency has been boosted.

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Just plotting this in excel, is this what you had in mind for the EQ?

Can this be realized using PEQ?

 

[edechamps]

@edechamps , do you have a means and will to calculate preference rating for this EQ? I think it would be an interesting experiment due to it's very good DI curves.

I'm afraid I don't really have the time to handle one-off requests like these… what I plan to do eventually is add a feature to Loudspeaker Explorer and have it recompute everything from there (including the score) so that you can do this yourself, but it's a bit further down my todo list. Stay tuned!

(I could also add that since Loudspeaker Explorer is open source you could try doing it yourself, but that's a tall order if you're not familiar with the environment. And you'd need to convert the EQ'd data back to Klippel format first.)

Maybe @pierre can do it with his code if he has time.

 

[QMuse]

Just plotting this in excel, is this what you had in mind for the EQ?

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Can this be realized using PEQ?

Here's how it is presented with rePhase. It looks pretty much the same once you adjust the scaling.

It can, but you'd need 37 of them. I'm attaching FIR filter in wav format so anyone interested in this can try it. Less precise PEQ version of it can be done with 12 of them.

 

[QMuse]

I'm afraid I don't really have the time to handle one-off requests like these… what I plan to do eventually is add a feature to Loudspeaker Explorer and have it recompute everything from there (including the score) so that you can do this yourself, but it's a bit further down my todo list. Stay tuned!

(I could also add that since Loudspeaker Explorer is open source you could try doing it yourself, but that's a tall order if you're not familiar with the environment. And you'd need to convert the EQ'd data back to Klippel format first.)

Maybe @pierre can do it with his code if he has time.

Well, doing EQ by hand takes my time as well, but ok..

 

[Jh5]

Here's how it is presented with rePhase. It looks pretty much the same once you adjust the scaling.


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It can, but you'd need 37 of them. I'm attaching FIR filter in wav format so anyone interested in this can try it. Less precise PEQ version of it can be done with 12 of them.

I heard a answer from 'mzkm', special thanks!! 6.6 without sub, 8.5 with sub(on-axis), 8.7 with sub(listening window) .
Would you share the rephase file of this?
thank u very much.

 

[QMuse]

I heard a answer from 'mzkm', special thanks!! 6.6 without sub, 8.5 with sub(on-axis), 8.7 with sub(listening window) .
Would you share the rephase file of this?
thank u very much.

That is an excellent score comparable to Genelec 8341A.

@amirm , this speaker may be the perfect candidate to test your theory how much distortion matters as with this EQ it has perfect linearity and yet it has a distortion spike at 2kHz. Any chance of listening to it again?

 

[QMuse]

Can this be realized using PEQ?

You can get pretty good result with these 5 PEQs:

 

[richard12511]

That is an excellent score comparable to Genelec 8341A.

@amirm , this speaker may be the perfect candidate to test your theory how much distortion matters as with this EQ it has perfect linearity and yet it has a distortion spike at 2kHz. Any chance of listening to it again?

It's hard to believe that these EQs are really this good. I kinda doubt that you can EQ a speaker like this to sound as good as the Genelec. Maybe a limitation of the formula, or maybe it's true, but my instinct is to doubt at the moment.