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KXXX is the same as the KXXS but with mildly boosted sub-bass, should sound very close
Blon BL03. You pay about $30 for a pair nowadays and they're ridiculously good for what they cost. I must admit I'd rather wear my 03's all day than my 1964 Audio customs... Not that they sound better than the customs, but they sound close enough and I'm not afraid to break or lose them. Best $30 I ever spent on audio, that's for sure, and that's coming from someone that owns more headphones and IEMs than any sane man should.
I don't think it's currently unavailable (I just got a pair of the N400s). I'm curious if your reasons for calling them "flakey."I've been doing a bunch of similar research. It may be a measurement thing, but it seems easier for IEMs to track the Curve than headphones.
The AKH N400 as mentioned above tracks the Harman curve precisely.
But it is wireless, unavailable and flakey.
Much easier to get hold of are the Moondrops.
I have Starfields which are in the ballpark.
The Blessing 2 Dusk is very close, and the Variations even closer.
I'd go for theDusk myself (and perhaps will).
It has slightly less bass bass than the Curve (which I like), and is desirable enough you could sell it for close to what you pay if it doesn't work out.
Where I live it certainly is.I don't think it's currently unavailable
Fair point. They used to be unavailable here too. Now they're not only available here, but also at a very good price.Where I live it certainly is.
I don't think it was ever available in Europe. (as are most recent AKG wireless products)Fair point. They used to be unavailable here too. Now they're not only available here, but also at a very good price.
Im not sure I would ever equate the IEM experience with the (over ear) headphone experience . In the same way I wouldn't try and compare headphone to speaker experience.Kind of kidnapping this thread a bit. But I'm debating between the Moondrop Kato and the AKG K371. Searching for the "budget" harman target but want the better detail retrieval of both.
What do you think?
Thank you. I know what you mean, they wont be my main headphones (those are open). These would be just for night listening. Sadly the Dusk cannot be imported to my Country, but the Kato can. So just need to now sort of which of both (K371 and Kato) would give be a more natural detailed experience for orchestral music.Im not sure I would ever equate the IEM experience with the (over ear) headphone experience . In the same way I wouldn't try and compare headphone to speaker experience.
That aside- I have the Kato and I have read about the AKG. The Kato are far from my most comfortable IEM (Heavy metal shell with odd hard edges, wants to drag the tip out of your ear rather than help it stay in) but have that Harman type bass, too much for me so I reduce it.
The AKG I believe has its own comfort/ fit issues (small cups for big ears) and multiple reports of build issues.
Honestly, stretch your budget to the Blessing 2 Dusk if you can - infinitely nicer overall experience than the Kato.
If it helps, I had an enjoyable couple of hours this afternoon with the Kato, but any longer would have driven me insane (regular gentle pushing them back to full seal- even worse if you are lying down).Thank you. I know what you mean, they wont be my main headphones (those are open). These would be just for night listening. Sadly the Dusk cannot be imported to my Country, but the Kato can. So just need to now sort of which of both (K371 and Kato) would give be a more natural detailed experience for orchestral music.
damn so not as comfortable as I imagined.If it helps, I had an enjoyable couple of hours this afternoon with the Kato, but any longer would have driven me insane (regular gentle pushing them back to full seal- even worse if you are lying down).
YMMV but no, for me not so comfortable. Left field suggestion for you , especially if you can buy from Drop (i import from them to UK) is look at the Etymotic range on there . The ER2 XR/ ER3 XR (DD and BA respectively) are the extended bass versions of their lower and mid price IEM and available at a good price / Not Harman, but if you can handle the deep insertion, very good for lying down listening oh, and very detailed.damn so not as comfortable as I imagined.
Oh yes. Funny you mention the Etys, because I just returned the ER4SR. I couldn’t handle the deep insertion, just too weird and uncomfortable and never could achieved a seal. So basically I’m back to square one and waiting my refund to order the K371 or the Katos.YMMV but no, for me not so comfortable. Left field suggestion for you , especially if you can buy from Drop (i import from them to UK) is look at the Etymotic range on there . The ER2 XR/ ER3 XR (DD and BA respectively) are the extended bass versions of their lower and mid price IEM and available at a good price / Not Harman, but if you can handle the deep insertion, very good for lying down listening oh, and very detailed.
I have Kato, good tonality but detail retrieval and treble sharpness not as high as what I would like to hear. You may consider Seeaudio Yume or Yume Midnight as well.Kind of kidnapping this thread a bit. But I'm debating between the Moondrop Kato and the AKG K371. Searching for the "budget" harman target but want the better detail retrieval of both.
What do you think?
oh Interesting. So you think the newer Midnight Yume have better detail retrieval than the Kato? There’s not much reviews yet for those so I had been holding up about them. I’ve read than for orchestral and soundtracks specially a single DD may be a better and more consistent and organic option.I have Kato, good tonality but detail retrieval and treble sharpness not as high as what I would like to hear. You may consider Seeaudio Yume or Yume Midnight as well.