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I want to abandon the DAC and stereo preamp and switch to AVR for everything.

Talisman

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I am seriously considering simplifying my audio setup a lot.
I currently have two separate systems using the same speakers

Stereo setup:
DAC loxjie D40
--->
Preamp advance acoustics mpp 505
--->
Dsp dyton audio dsp 408
---->
Audiophonics mpa s250nc
---->
Switch audio Fosi lc30
---->
Kef R3 and pair of subwoofers 1 svs pb1000 and an Elac s10. 2



Multi-channel setup:
Yamaha rx v 765
---->
4 subwoofers (two in common with the stereo, two different) + fosi audio V3 mono +
---->
Switch fosi audio Lc30
---->
Kef R3

Now taking advantage of a very advantageous offer I took a Denon AVC-X3800H, I'm thinking of getting rid of this complex and redundant double configuration and do everything with the Denon.
On the other hand, any qualities of my loxjie DAC are still re-digitalized and re-converted to analog by the presumably mediocre Dsp dyton, and even so I find the sound quality excellent so I don't think at all that I could hear the difference, instead of using the dsp dyton I would use the Denon correction with audissey or at most I would take dirac further ahead and I could use only the Hypex ncore power amp for everything having a much simpler configuration.
What do you think?
 
Very (very) sensible move. There are always alternatives, but the Denon's room correction will make more of a difference than anything else.
 
Sounds like a great plan.

I'd keep the power amp for a while just in case.

Wished I had the physical room for a Denon myself. They're incredibly complete and versatile.
 
Makes sense to me. Especially with two subs, and the ability to use room correction. I went from having a decent Yamaha multichannel AV receiver to various seperate amps and preamps, back to a decent Yamaha stereo receiver. The only real downside to me is if something goes wrong with either the preamp or amp section, the whole thing is toast. Luckily there's plenty of affordable options out there if I want/need to go back to seperates.
 
Differences in amp or DAC quality are difficult to detect even under ideal circumstances, the X3800H room correction software makes the entire setup better.

I would recommend doing Audyssey + manual tuning to start. The $600 price for the full Dirac package is quite high, many rooms would benefit more from $600 of DIY acoustic treatment.

Unless your subwoofers have wildly different capabilities it is best to run them all as mono below your crossover point. I would keep the Dayton 408, it is a great tool for integrating mixed subwoofers and bass shakers.
 
Yes I will keep the dayton audio dsp 408 anyway, maybe putting it on a secondary system, it costs little and is incredibly versatile and powerful with 4 inputs and 8 outputs, applicable filters, digital crossovers etc etc, the Windows application is quite simple and can also be done from the App. It probably won't measure very well, but in practical use it is exceptional.

I am increasingly convinced by the solution with the Denon that manages both multichannel and stereo, a much simpler, cleaner system, without unnecessary complications and with the sale of the elements of the chain that I dispose of I pay for the Denon and make a profit.
 
I am increasingly convinced by the solution with the Denon that manages both multichannel and stereo, a much simpler, cleaner system,

Many of us had/have fun working our way through systems and components to appreciate similar experiences.
 
Yes I will keep the dayton audio dsp 408 anyway, maybe putting it on a secondary system, it costs little and is incredibly versatile and powerful with 4 inputs and 8 outputs, applicable filters, digital crossovers etc etc, the Windows application is quite simple and can also be done from the App. It probably won't measure very well, but in practical use it is exceptional.

I am increasingly convinced by the solution with the Denon that manages both multichannel and stereo, a much simpler, cleaner system, without unnecessary complications and with the sale of the elements of the chain that I dispose of I pay for the Denon and make a profit.
You've got my full support. Simpler and cleaner is one thing, room correction is the biggy, but don't discount the utility of all the little "tweaks" the Denon gives you. As time goes on I've become more and more appreciative of such things as dynamic eq, various sound modes and up mixers, even dynamic range expansion in unusual cases. Having enough power would be the only significant issue and that can be easily remedied with external amps if needed. And full system control with a single app on my Ipad, priceless.
 
And here we are, in the end I replaced everything with the Denon and at the moment I am extremely satisfied, I am not yet 100% convinced of the Audyssey correction but I am working with the target curves and already the result after an hour is very satisfactory, but now I have to get myself well with the umik and Rew and understand well what audyssey is doing and possibly manually correct the curves to make them as I want. Surely the peaks in the bass have been removed and this has cleaned up the sound a lot but now with rew I have to see if there are any nulls that I can improve by moving the subwoofers a bit. The various musical modes for multichannel processing such as auro 3D can give some nice interesting effects. In terms of sound and cleanliness I do not hear any worsening compared to my previous configuration so I would say that it has been an improvement in every aspect. The sale of preamplifier and Dac will serenely cover almost the entire cost of the receiver
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