- Sep 15, 2020
Indeed, I am curious if I would like HE400SE more due to something not sub bass level related.At 30Hz K371 has 7dB more output than HD560S and at 50Hz 5dB more. So yes, you can hear that difference at any level. In the end its just exaggerated low bass in the K371 which many people like/prefer.
HE400SE has even less bass than HD560S but is better extended.
The white "Christmas tree tinsel" cable? Consider yourself lucky that you have the black cable. The "tinsel" cable works but looks to be as durable as a condom in a pin factory.Btw mine only came with the newer black cable but not the white one. Even never revision or whats up?
Weird thing is that even though they have deeper bass than the HD650, they sound bass lite comparatively. They require a sizable bass boost. The upside is that they can handle it without falling apart.
Frequency response isn’t everything and though I can’t support it with evidence, it’s obvious to anyone who has much experience in audio. We shouldn’t be afraid to admit it as objective-minded humans.
What smoothing did you apply?
I also wouldn’t assume my hearing has issues as it seems you were applying
That’s what I was thinking it was. I was just playing around with it last week. REW has gained some interesting features.'Psychoacoustic smoothing' (an option in REW) is what I use when comparing headphones for tonal balance. Less clutter and fairly accurate in tonal balance.
No implications. Just mentioning this aspects (upper treble) response in general.
I want to use SolderDude’s psychoacoustically smoothed graphs to EQ these 2 today. I should really just measure the response on my ears and make them match. I can to blocked ear canal measurements easy enough. I haven’t done that in a long time, but I should do it again just so I can line then up perfectly And match either of them to the other’s original response. It’ll be an interesting exercise to me though in the grand scheme of things means nothing to the rest of the world. The 650 are the headphones that really got me out of the headphone hobby. I enjoy them so much, I stopped looking for headphones for over a decade. They fit me like a glove.FWIW i have had the 400se's for about a week now and concur with DanTheMan. He pretty much summed up my impressions to a T.
I am comparing to the 560s and 58x though which are also excellent. Solderdude's reply was very enlightening with a lot of useful information.
In regards to EQ, I use a Moto E4 with Onkyo HF player to OTG cable to SMSL Sanskrit and finally a Drop THX One or custom O2 with a LM4562 input opamp (made a nice difference to me). Anyway I believe I have found a way to edit the Onkyo HF player EQ curves offline. The interface is difficult to use on the screen of a small phone. It is a nice FIR EQ though. The process is quite easy and you don't need to root your phone. Is this forum the place to explain it?
That’s what I was thinking it was. I was just playing around with it last week. REW has gained some interesting features.
Older studies in Sound Reproduction concluded that ‘old’ folk don’t like a treble boost anymore than young people do. Is there a newer study that you are referring to?