Gaming Headphones Better Than Sundaras

[Misguided]

Hi.

I have some Sundaras which I use for music, movies and gaming at home.

I keep toying with the idea of buying some other headphones primarily for gaming but when I read into it I end up sticking as there are a huge amount of opinions out there and the Sundaras always seem to come out as one of the better choices.

I just wondered if anyone has tried out other headphones and found them better for gaming, if so why?

I’m not looking to spend much more than £150 and my candidates are the usual suspects, HD560, DT770 80 ohm and AKG 702.

 

[IAtaman]

Hi.

I have some Sundaras which I use for music, movies and gaming at home.

I keep toying with the idea of buying some other headphones primarily for gaming but when I read into it I end up sticking as there are a huge amount of opinions out there and the Sundaras always seem to come out as one of the better choices.

I just wondered if anyone has tried out other headphones and found them better for gaming, if so why?

I’m not looking to spend much more than £150 and my candidates are the usual suspects, HD560, DT770 80 ohm and AKG 702.

I hear people complain Sundara's are not great for FPS gaming as they are not good at localization.

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[Dunring]

I've had them and the soundstage is wide but not deep front to back. I remember enemies had to be right on top of me when facing them before I'd hear them.
The best in that price range would be the Beyerdynamic DT880 250 ohm, See audio Yume II, Final VR300 for IEMs. Also the Sennheiser HD598 and 560 are solid picks. The 80ohm DT770 had too much bass for gaming. I remember explosions drowning things out.

 

[Misguided]

Thanks I think it is worth buying some HD560s.

 

[Phishin_Phool]

I really enjoy the Audeze Maxwell's for gaming imaging is really good and the mic is more than satisfactory as well

 

[Misguided]

Hi. I bought some Sennheiser HD560s after Xmas. I haven't actually gamed with them yet but did listen to some tunes and watch some tv and wow, seriously good for the money, very impressed. Thanks for all the advice.

 

[Somafunk]

I bought my mates kid the Audeze Maxwell to go with Xbox Series X I got him for Xmas, I’ve not tried them out for gaming as I haven’t gamed since the days of the NES but they are an excellent audio headphone and my mates kid is really impressed with them, way over your budget unfortunately

 

[bodhi]

I bought my mates kid the Audeze Maxwell to go with Xbox Series X I got him for Xmas, I’ve not tried them out for gaming as I haven’t gamed since the days of the NES but they are an excellent audio headphone and my mates kid is really impressed with them, way over your budget unfortunately

I think those are a game-changer. All that sound quality, wirelessly, with built-in EQ and great build quality. Not to mention the battery life.

It's expensive as a gaming headset, but when it also handles all your other headphone needs be it music listening or late night movie watching, it's actually seems pretty affordable.

 

[Misguided]

I have heard they are very very good. I already have my Sundaras for music otherwise I suspect they would be a consideration, maybe next upgrade

 

[bodhi]

I have heard they are very very good. I already have my Sundaras for music otherwise I suspect they would be a consideration, maybe next upgrade

I don't think they are better than EQ'd Sundara in sound quality alone. Both out of the box, then Maxwell wins, but not a fair comparison.

Use case for Maxwell is that you want one headphone to do everything, without hassle. Then you are good and are not missing much compared to separates. But one already has the hassle done and is ok with that then Maxwell doesn't really bring anything to the table.

Well, the build quality is better than most hifimans, reagardless of price, but that's just hifiman things.

 

[RoA]

Beyerdynamic DT900 ProX. I have the 700 ProX but had both here before committing. I also have the Sundara. Imho the 900 ProX betters the Sundara in soundstage and pin point accuracy.

 

[Ufasas]

I had k702, one plastic side snapped, they still useable, eventually i threw them away, lol, but I compared them to HD560s and x2hr / mdr-ma900 for competitive gaming, hd560s and k702 stays on top, but i am keeping hd560s as the main top, if all headphones broke, i would probably rebuy hd560s and k702

 

[bequietjk]

I keep hearing that the ATH R70x are fantastic for gaming. Just going to want a beefy amp to power the 470ohm load.

When it comes to gaming the preference is going to span pretty wide across the board when you consider the types of games you will be playing. MMO, FPS, heck even card games. Soundstage, pinpoint accuracy for knowing where sounds are coming from and even enjoyment of the soundtrack of the game is going to be on the list. Personally, I'm having a tough time deciding between the DT 900 Pro x, HD560s and Sundara for a do-it-all, FPS and RPG-style gameplay headphone that also offers a great music listening experience of the original game soundtrack.

 

[Misguided]

I went for some HD560S. I am currently playing a lot of BO6 but have also been on them a fair but with Diablo and Elden Ring. They can be drive from the controller easily, making it easy to use a mod mic too, they are light and comfortable.

Music wise they are great especially when using some EQ, I am very happy with them.

 

[Steel Squirrel]

I keep hearing that the ATH R70x are fantastic for gaming. Just going to want a beefy amp to power the 470ohm load.

When it comes to gaming the preference is going to span pretty wide across the board when you consider the types of games you will be playing. MMO, FPS, heck even card games. Soundstage, pinpoint accuracy for knowing where sounds are coming from and even enjoyment of the soundtrack of the game is going to be on the list. Personally, I'm having a tough time deciding between the DT 900 Pro x, HD560s and Sundara for a do-it-all, FPS and RPG-style gameplay headphone that also offers a great music listening experience of the original game soundtrack.

A little late to the party, but I can confirm the R70x are great for gaming. Definitely the #1 choice if soundstage and imaging are your priorities and you don't want to pay for the HD 800. I have also started using the HD 550 for gaming, and they do a fantastic job. They have a very fun tuning for gaming. The HD 550 are great because you get most of the Sennheiser sound the 600 and 6xx have, but with better imaging and soundstage. The mids aren't as lush and intimate for vocals and music in general as the 600/6xx, but they still do a fantastic job with music.

 

[Ken Wood]

Glad to see this topic back as I am also looking for a new gaming headset. I own the following,
Headphones: Sennheiser HD800S + Hifiman Arya Stealth Magnet
DAC/AMP: RME ADI DAC 2 FS + Feliks Echo Vibe (sucessor to Echo Mk2)
Tried and returned in the past: Sennheiser HD560S, 660S2 and BeyerDynamic DT770 Pro

They were all bought to listen to music only. Arya for EDM + Rock and HD800S for everything else. Both I consider my endgame for my favorite type of music.

Just recently, I left console gaming and switched to a high end Gaming PC.
I don't play competitive games, I like story driven cinematic games like The Witcher 3, The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Red Dead Redemption 2, Claire Obscur.
Those game have beautiful soundtracks and sounds great on the HD800S with the tube amp. However, once you go in battle and the music becomes louder and the sound effects and loud voices kicks in, I don't like how the HD800S sounds. Same with the Arya. I usually dial down the SFX and voice in the ingame sound settings or keep changing volumes until battle is over...it is far from ideal.
Both are bright headphones and I am looking for a warmer, more relaxed, immersive headphone and purely for gaming. I don't need a soundstage as wide as the HD800S and I don't like closed back headphones. Any recommendations for a dynamic headphone (to be used with the Feliks)? I did some research and ZMF headphones are out of my reach but it seems to be what I am currently looking for. I don't want to break the bank yet again, anything under 1000 euros would be great. The HD650 is currently on my radar as some call it baby ZMF. Thanks in advance for your help.