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thewas

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Again it doesn't matter why something happens, we're strictly talking about the end result.
And again the frequency response bump due to the addition of 2 drivers is not a resonance, a resonance happens only when a eigenfrequency (natural frequency) of a system is excited and is a result and shows itself from energy storage phenomena, that is excitation time dependant amplitude increase during excitation and similar not immediate decay after excitation.

To quote Toole again from your previous citation:
Is this a resonance? Technically not, in the dictionary definition sense.
 

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And again the frequency response bump due to the addition of 2 drivers is not a resonance, a resonance happens only when a eigenfrequency (natural frequency) of a system is excited and is a result and shows itself from energy storage phenomena, that is excitation time dependant amplitude increase during excitation and similar not immediate decay after excitation.

To quote Toole again from your previous citation:
Is this a resonance? Technically not, in the dictionary definition sense.

If you read further you see:

"Above crossover, the tweeter has much wider dispersion than the woofer, so there is an energy rise over a wide frequency range. Is this a resonance? Technically not, in the dictionary definition sense. However, there is a broad hump in radiated energy, so perceptually it may appear to be so. Figure 4.13 shows such an example where even crude room curves were adequate to recognize the energy excess in an above-crossover energy excess and attenuate it. Because wide bandwidth (low-Q) phenomena are detected at very small deviations there was a clear improvement in perceived sound quality even though medium and higher-Q "real" resonances were essentially unchanged. Addressing all of the "resonances" was not surprisingly the best.

So, don't get hung up on semantics. Deviations from a linear frequency response are all describable as "resonances" if one chooses to. Broadband trends are very low-Q, narrower trends, medium Q, and so on. Even a bass tone control is an opportunity to manipulate a "resonance" - in this case the hump that develops above the low cutoff frequency which, depending on the system design will have a Q."

Keywords being Don't get hung up on semantics, the LS50 has a deviation from a linear response at 2k at any and all angles that you measure, including your own in room frequency response measurements. You can call it whatever you want, I'm just saying if you EQ that bump out it will result in better sound quality.
 

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If you read further you see:

"Above crossover, the tweeter has much wider dispersion than the woofer, so there is an energy rise over a wide frequency range. Is this a resonance? Technically not, in the dictionary definition sense. However, there is a broad hump in radiated energy, so perceptually it may appear to be so. Figure 4.13 shows such an example where even crude room curves were adequate to recognize the energy excess in an above-crossover energy excess and attenuate it. Because wide bandwidth (low-Q) phenomena are detected at very small deviations there was a clear improvement in perceived sound quality even though medium and higher-Q "real" resonances were essentially unchanged. Addressing all of the "resonances" was not surprisingly the best.

So, don't get hung up on semantics. Deviations from a linear frequency response are all describable as "resonances" if one chooses to. Broadband trends are very low-Q, narrower trends, medium Q, and so on. Even a bass tone control is an opportunity to manipulate a "resonance" - in this case the hump that develops above the low cutoff frequency which, depending on the system design will have a Q."

Keywords being Don't get hung up on semantics, the LS50 has a deviation from a linear response at 2k at any and all angles that you measure, including your own in room frequency response measurements. You can call it whatever you want, I'm just saying if you EQ that bump out it will result in better sound quality.
Toole saying don't get hung up on semantics after saying such isn't technically a resonance and using the term resonance in "" quotation marks is exactly what I am saying all the time. I also never questioned at any time the usage of EQ against that hump, only that you named it resonance, simple as that.
 
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