Don't be too harsh on them. With their vacuum you get a digital motor! And the best part is, there is no such thing. It is called brushless motor and it is not even their invention. But marketing, in the other hand is impressive....
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Dyson didn't invent the "cyclone", bagless dust filter either, it was a miniaturised version of large industrial dust extractors that have been used in saw mills and workshops for many years:
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Agreed. Dyson is nothing more than a freeloading tosser.
The only decent thing he made was the Ballbarrow, my grans garden out in the Galloway countryside was big and parts of it were like a jungle to a kid growing up with the old oak forest at the side, she was a keen gardener with a big musty shed full of tools that smelled wonderful and I’ll always remember pestering my dad to run me round the garden and up ‘n down the paths between veg/flowers. This would be late 70’s and it’s a nice thought to still have of my dad laughing away and making engine noises as we careered around the place, my gran used to shout at us if we crashed into a flower bed.
For that memory to stick so vividly in my knackered brain and just pop out of nowhere as I read the last few posts I can say that I’m very grateful to Dyson for enabling that memory to burrow deep, for everything else….nah……he’s still a dick
For that memory to stick so vividly in my knackered brain and just pop out of nowhere as I read the last few posts I can say that I’m very grateful to Dyson for enabling that memory to burrow deep, for everything else….nah……he’s still a dick
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Geez, what a bunch of grumps. Nobody has gotten their hands on this headphone yet, nobody has seen any measurements ... yet the pile-on has already started.
FWIW, I own a Dyson V15 handheld vacuum cleaner. It replaced my 18 year old Dyson upright vacuum cleaner, which is still working BTW. I got tired of lugging that thing around looking for a socket to plug it in. The handheld is a revelation, it cleans just as well as my old upright (caveat given that it's older and its filter has not been replaced), and is so much lighter and more convenient. And it is MUCH quieter.
FWIW, I own a Dyson V15 handheld vacuum cleaner. It replaced my 18 year old Dyson upright vacuum cleaner, which is still working BTW. I got tired of lugging that thing around looking for a socket to plug it in. The handheld is a revelation, it cleans just as well as my old upright (caveat given that it's older and its filter has not been replaced), and is so much lighter and more convenient. And it is MUCH quieter.
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LOL
In my defence, I did have a Dyson vacuum cleaner for a while, and I hated it. The plastic was fragile and many of the clips and latches broke off, such that after a while there was a fair amount of gaffer tape holding it all together, but the worst thing, was the noise. I know no vacuum cleaner is going to be quiet, but the high pitched scream that Dyson made was really unpleasant.
In contrast the Henry had quite a mellow tone, was tough enough for light tree felling and had a nice smiley face on it.
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Love our Henry - they've made 2M of them I believe so parts and consumables are cheap . Every tradesman we have ever had to the house has one for cleaning up - they are indestructible. Enough said. Weird but not one single tradesman had a Dyson
As for Dyson headphones - just don't see this as a logical extension of their brand or product portfolio .... perhaps Taylor Swift will endorse them as the perfect companion product whilst you're vacuuming and they will take off
Perhaps they will bring out a Dyson Vacuum with built in streamer and Bluetooth ?
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I got one of those too. It's why I joined the pile on.
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I leave these here, as they might be the first user measurements. Not bad, but the Enhanced stock mode really lacks clarity because of the muddy upper bass, relaxed 4-6 kHz and compressed AAC coded. The neutral mode sounds a lot better, but still somewhat soft and rounded. The treble is also quite unrefined with those spikes - not too bright but a bit splashy. Just forget the bass boost!
Currently, I have no means to test them with LHDC codec, but it might help with the clarity. The midrange is very ok compared to many other ANC headphones.
Currently, I have no means to test them with LHDC codec, but it might help with the clarity. The midrange is very ok compared to many other ANC headphones.
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Those measurements look very good for a consumer ANC headphoneI leave these here, as they might be the first user measurements. Not bad, but the Enhanced stock mode really lacks clarity because of the muddy upper bass, relaxed 4-6 kHz and compressed AAC coded. The neutral mode sounds a lot better, but still somewhat soft and rounded. The treble is also quite unrefined with those spikes - not too bright but a bit splashy. Just forget the bass boost!
Currently, I have no means to test them with LHDC codec, but it might help with the clarity. The midrange is very ok compared to many other ANC headphones.
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They are. Similar graph could be seen in the background on Dyson's own release video, so I believe my rig is quite accurate.
My IEMs measure as well as this or better - they cost £50 not £450 - same old Dyson ...
Here's the response from Crinacle Zero Red at £50 a go
To each their own attitude and experiences.
My 2 cents (rant) on Dyson.
I was sick to hell of the low quality, screechingly loud shop vacuums available here in the 70s and 80s.
(I also still have my original 70s Royal upright vac - a beautiful bit of industrial design in cast aluminum - it still works...as much as it ever did - and is fairly quiet too.)
So I got a Fein shop vacuum (late 80s?) and was amazed at how quiet it was - too bad it had a domed top so you could never 'rest' anything on top of it - later followed by one of the Festool shop vacs, equally quiet, a bit more functional as it works as a rolling stand, too.
That led me to the (screechingly pricey) Dyson upright and hand vacs in the 90s, which I tested directly against (an equally screechingly pricey) upright vac the vacuum stores scream about - and, in a co-workers house who had a brand new one, we ran them together, and the dyson ran circles around it (well, picked up lots of dirt the other left behind, but not the reverse).
I ended up with two dyson uprights, one cannister (weird as hell, but can pull paint off a wall) and 5 (!) handhelds, two of which are stick vacs (v6 is the latest) (dyson offered me huge discounts on them for a while there) - ALL more than 20 years old now (the first upright is nearing 30).
All of them are still working, though one of the handhelds has suffered some kind of battery charging failure I haven't diagnosed yet.
Most of the handhelds are on second or third batteries, now pretty inexpensive via china...and all still work about as well as they started out.
Are the perfect? NO. There are lots of things about them that annoy me...but convenience is NOT one of those problem areas.
I still use almost all of them ( one in each room) nearly daily (and I'm NOT a clean freak, as much as I admire the goal) and use the upright a bit less often now (the stick vacs of v6 and later are so powerful the upright is now inconvenient, with it's cord, etc).
What they won me over on was 1. suckability, 2. multiple use cases (tools) 3. portability (hand helds).
Since then, of course, others have effectively challenged them, and for less money.
BUT.
I am also a product tester, and have (still am) testing 5 different stick vacuums, all costing more than $150 - and ALL of them are miserably poor, usually in more than one regard, too. (Tip, the Wyze stick vac, one of the earlier clones, is extremely useless.)
Heck, the new 12vdc motors on minature cordless ('car') vacs are more powerful, and getting better every year - and are barely larger than an old vacuum cleaner HOSE!
NONE of the stick vacs came even close to competing with any of my old Dysons - and are relegated to 'first fix only' cleanups when I dont 'have time to grab one of the better vacs. (Wall mounts, with integrated charging, in particular seem to be hard for dyson competitors to get right - they almost all are horrible.)
Sure, it's mostly just me, and I don't expose them to 'industrial' cleaning challenges (other than LOTS of cat hair); and my step-daughter, who worked for a few years as a office building night cleaner, said NOT ONE of those professional cleaners would consider a Dyson (most wore backpack vac sets).
At the time, I could easily afford them, and paid little attention to cost (but again. was also offered at least 3 hugely discounted ones directly from Dyson).
Finally, batteries and parts for them are generally pretty easy to find copies of, and (I also have been testing those) most work well enough (some, like the vac powered
'turbine' brushes, though, are not as effective as the OEMs).
Bottom line, I've been more than pleased with the effectivness, durability and parts availability on ALL of the dysons I have.
(Funny: Just before I retired, I brought one of the handheld vacuums in to work to clean out my desk - and on of my 'compatriot' supervisors saw the thing and literally ran away down the hall !! He honestly thought I was carrying some kind of really weird (bright orange!) weapon!!
(Uh, not that I wouldn't have, had I actually had one...esp if it vacuumed up useless chatter.)
I haven't bothered to assess Mr. Dyson's political or other views- could well be a good point to be made there.
(Oh, and I also have one of his son's equally outrageously pricey 'smart' lamps, and actually love it a LOT ..which also suprised me....it....'glows' at me when i walk by!!)
Would I buy (pay for) another one, now, in retirement? Hell No...the cost is insane...but then I'm not exactly short on vacuums, either.
Everyone's experiences are different, but keeping things rational and mostly fact based (ASR, right?) is pretty important to me.
IF I was offered one of the headphones, or one of the new 'wash' stick vacs (I have a few small tiled areas that are a pain to scrub by hand) I'd snag 'em (for free) in an instant.
Dyson, like Elon, and a lot of others, seem to be very polarizing.
I dont' quite understand why - well, other than, very wealthy men, (mostly) think their successful careers makes them smarter in all regards than the rest of us, when in fact it usually really means they are better at BS ing and bullying employees...but by then are surrounded by 'psychophants' so rarely get their faces rubbed in dirt.
(See how I rounded that one up, there?
Will be curious to see if the headphones test well.
All else is speculation.
End. Rant.
My 2 cents (rant) on Dyson.
I was sick to hell of the low quality, screechingly loud shop vacuums available here in the 70s and 80s.
(I also still have my original 70s Royal upright vac - a beautiful bit of industrial design in cast aluminum - it still works...as much as it ever did - and is fairly quiet too.)
So I got a Fein shop vacuum (late 80s?) and was amazed at how quiet it was - too bad it had a domed top so you could never 'rest' anything on top of it - later followed by one of the Festool shop vacs, equally quiet, a bit more functional as it works as a rolling stand, too.
That led me to the (screechingly pricey) Dyson upright and hand vacs in the 90s, which I tested directly against (an equally screechingly pricey) upright vac the vacuum stores scream about - and, in a co-workers house who had a brand new one, we ran them together, and the dyson ran circles around it (well, picked up lots of dirt the other left behind, but not the reverse).
I ended up with two dyson uprights, one cannister (weird as hell, but can pull paint off a wall) and 5 (!) handhelds, two of which are stick vacs (v6 is the latest) (dyson offered me huge discounts on them for a while there) - ALL more than 20 years old now (the first upright is nearing 30).
All of them are still working, though one of the handhelds has suffered some kind of battery charging failure I haven't diagnosed yet.
Most of the handhelds are on second or third batteries, now pretty inexpensive via china...and all still work about as well as they started out.
Are the perfect? NO. There are lots of things about them that annoy me...but convenience is NOT one of those problem areas.
I still use almost all of them ( one in each room) nearly daily (and I'm NOT a clean freak, as much as I admire the goal) and use the upright a bit less often now (the stick vacs of v6 and later are so powerful the upright is now inconvenient, with it's cord, etc).
What they won me over on was 1. suckability, 2. multiple use cases (tools) 3. portability (hand helds).
Since then, of course, others have effectively challenged them, and for less money.
BUT.
I am also a product tester, and have (still am) testing 5 different stick vacuums, all costing more than $150 - and ALL of them are miserably poor, usually in more than one regard, too. (Tip, the Wyze stick vac, one of the earlier clones, is extremely useless.)
Heck, the new 12vdc motors on minature cordless ('car') vacs are more powerful, and getting better every year - and are barely larger than an old vacuum cleaner HOSE!
NONE of the stick vacs came even close to competing with any of my old Dysons - and are relegated to 'first fix only' cleanups when I dont 'have time to grab one of the better vacs. (Wall mounts, with integrated charging, in particular seem to be hard for dyson competitors to get right - they almost all are horrible.)
Sure, it's mostly just me, and I don't expose them to 'industrial' cleaning challenges (other than LOTS of cat hair); and my step-daughter, who worked for a few years as a office building night cleaner, said NOT ONE of those professional cleaners would consider a Dyson (most wore backpack vac sets).
At the time, I could easily afford them, and paid little attention to cost (but again. was also offered at least 3 hugely discounted ones directly from Dyson).
Finally, batteries and parts for them are generally pretty easy to find copies of, and (I also have been testing those) most work well enough (some, like the vac powered
'turbine' brushes, though, are not as effective as the OEMs).
Bottom line, I've been more than pleased with the effectivness, durability and parts availability on ALL of the dysons I have.
(Funny: Just before I retired, I brought one of the handheld vacuums in to work to clean out my desk - and on of my 'compatriot' supervisors saw the thing and literally ran away down the hall !! He honestly thought I was carrying some kind of really weird (bright orange!) weapon!!
(Uh, not that I wouldn't have, had I actually had one...esp if it vacuumed up useless chatter.)
I haven't bothered to assess Mr. Dyson's political or other views- could well be a good point to be made there.
(Oh, and I also have one of his son's equally outrageously pricey 'smart' lamps, and actually love it a LOT ..which also suprised me....it....'glows' at me when i walk by!!)
Would I buy (pay for) another one, now, in retirement? Hell No...the cost is insane...but then I'm not exactly short on vacuums, either.
Everyone's experiences are different, but keeping things rational and mostly fact based (ASR, right?) is pretty important to me.
IF I was offered one of the headphones, or one of the new 'wash' stick vacs (I have a few small tiled areas that are a pain to scrub by hand) I'd snag 'em (for free) in an instant.
Dyson, like Elon, and a lot of others, seem to be very polarizing.
I dont' quite understand why - well, other than, very wealthy men, (mostly) think their successful careers makes them smarter in all regards than the rest of us, when in fact it usually really means they are better at BS ing and bullying employees...but by then are surrounded by 'psychophants' so rarely get their faces rubbed in dirt.
(See how I rounded that one up, there?
Will be curious to see if the headphones test well.
All else is speculation.
End. Rant.
Pareto Pragmatic
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I have watched a couple reviews of these, mostly because I got a good laugh out of the earlier facemask fan on your face design.
The upside seems to be battery charge lasts super long, and they don't sound bad. Noise canceling not quite Bose or Apple, but good. I was intrigued by the battery location. That's a good example of how Dyson does things a bit differently.
$500? Meh. That's less than retail on the air pod max, but the max I see available for $400 right now.
As a design firm, I think Dyson has a lot going on in terms of feel and looks (not for everyone, but they do have a style). In terms of engineering? I would say overhyped and inconsistent.
The upside seems to be battery charge lasts super long, and they don't sound bad. Noise canceling not quite Bose or Apple, but good. I was intrigued by the battery location. That's a good example of how Dyson does things a bit differently.
$500? Meh. That's less than retail on the air pod max, but the max I see available for $400 right now.
As a design firm, I think Dyson has a lot going on in terms of feel and looks (not for everyone, but they do have a style). In terms of engineering? I would say overhyped and inconsistent.
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But this is not a flaw which is specific for Dyson.
When it comes to tuning, is not realistic nowadays to hold Over-Ears to the same standards as In-Ears. Tuning In-Ears is way easier.
There is hardly any Over-Ear at any price point which is tuned as close to Harman as the Zero IEM. Or arguably even cheaper IEMs.
I think the reviews here are (inadvertently) feeding this misconception.
That said, it might indeed just be the rational conclusion for most people just to buy one of these budget IEMs and stop with audio afterwards.
Besides, this headphone is not tuned with the Harman target in mind. It is tuned to (tilted) Diffuse Field. Not 10DB as in this graph, but like 12DB (warmer).
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Weird... the Harman target is a better match than tilted DF (neutral mode).
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Since I don't appear to have shared this comment in this context before... I think it may be noteworthy that the Dyson wand vacuum cleaners bear an uncanny resemblance to a tonearm.
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Can you please measure distortion?I leave these here, as they might be the first user measurements. Not bad, but the Enhanced stock mode really lacks clarity because of the muddy upper bass, relaxed 4-6 kHz and compressed AAC coded. The neutral mode sounds a lot better, but still somewhat soft and rounded. The treble is also quite unrefined with those spikes - not too bright but a bit splashy. Just forget the bass boost!
Currently, I have no means to test them with LHDC codec, but it might help with the clarity. The midrange is very ok compared to many other ANC headphones.
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