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Dan Clark E3 Headphone Review

Rate this headphone:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 13 5.3%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 36 14.8%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 190 78.2%

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    243
Agreed! IMO if the frequency response and distortion levels of planar/dynamic headphones are similar there aren't any reasons to go one way or the other.

Maybe low-end extension is a pro for planars, but dynamics can solve this with EQ. However, the con is that they are usually heavier and more uncomfortable during long listening sessions vs lighter dynamics.

RTINGs states that planars have marginally better soundstage (usually planar drivers are larger), while dynamics have better imaging (due to difficult manufacturing and matching, planars can have errors in the phase response). However, this is all in theory and isn't true in every case.

Think it's better to choose headphones based on utility and listening habits - closed back or open, wireless, easy to drive, weight, and even looks rather than based on drivers. Of course, FR and distortion numbers need to be satisfactory.
I think you make some good points there. But re RTINGS and them thinking planars have better soundstage that doesn't marry with my experience, I don't agree with that. The one problem I have with planars is the "fine grass" high Q (short sharp) variations in frequency response that is often seen in planars, but that is totally not the case with many Dan Clark headphones - somehow they've remedied that and certainly in the E3 it's a smooth frequency response at every level, so in this instance this E3 does not exhibit the thing I dislike about planars. Looks like a very good headphone, the E3.

Just on your point re imaging, I totally agree with that - perfect channel matching through the whole frequency response makes a massive difference in the coherence of the imaging vs a headphone that is unbalanced between the drivers. I know that because I have a miniDSP EARS measurement rig and I've channel matched all my headphones perfectly through the whole frequency range (using per channel EQ) and it does improve the imaging on each of the headphones, particularly on the ones that were initially showing poor channel matching out of the box.
 
Whether spending $2000 on entertainment makes sense is a very personal question, but assuming it does, $2000 will get a state of the art, nearly perfect sound through headphones. However getting the same sound through loudspeakers is still questionable - they need Eq, room correction and are fiddly. I love speakers and their “thump” but I end up listening to headphone way more than speakers.

My $0.02 is to spend money on what you spend your time on.
You make an excellent point about the "nearly perfect sound through headphones" which is exactly the reason the DCA E3s have caught my attention. The major difficulty for me, personally is that I'm an old Classical music fan, and loudspeakers - despite their flaws - give symphony orchestras and cathedral organs a spaciousness I sorely miss whenever I try listening over headphones. (I realize that this is an issue outside the scope of this thread...) I think for many people who use headphones as much (or more) than speakers it is second nature that these media are "different, and both are great". But as I've spent decades listening to loudspeakers compared to just hours listening to headphones, the difference between them continues to be kind of a shock to me -- so your encouragement to "spend your money where you spend your time" is advice well taken. ;)
 
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I imagine that by using EQ with some decent more affordable headphones would get you quite close to E3. I normally recommend people buy the Sennheiser HD560s if they're new to headphones and want to use some EQ...
Your suggestion is truly helpful. Sennheiser seems to do so many things so consistently well across their headphone product line that I have often wondered why don't they just tune their models closer to the Harman curve to offer (admittedly lazy) buyers like me a "no brainer" option. The HD560S is currently selling for less than one-tenth the price of the DCA E3 and is probably a more practical choice for a complete novice (which is how I would describe myself). I might even discover that I enjoy fiddling a bit with equalization. Thanks for the informative links. I do have one question -- wouldn't planars like the E3 offer more clarity and detail due to faster response? (or is this factor much more complex than that...)
 
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Clarity is in the 1-4 kHz region and any headphone, even the crappy ones, are fast enough for that. Having a bump in that area gives clarity. Having a (too big) dip there and the headphone uses clarity.

The E3 is closed, HD560S is open. Better to compare E3 with HD620S as both are closed. With a good seal it is close to Harman and still considerably cheaper than E3
Arguably the E3 can play louder (but needs a lot of power to do so) where the HD620S is easier to drive and lighter in weight.
 
The E3 is closed, HD560S is open. Better to compare E3 with HD620S as both are closed. With a good seal it is close to Harman and still considerably cheaper than E3.
Thanks for the tip - the HD 620S was introduced so recently that I wasn't even aware of its existence. I have no strong preference concerning open headphones vs. closed, dynamic models vs. planar, as long as they reproduce music realistically (and are reasonably comfortable). I imagine the DCA E3s excel at these qualities, and if price were no object I'd probably invest in a pair without hesitation. But as a retired guy my frugal tendencies encourage me to consider bang-for-buck...
 
Your suggestion is truly helpful. Sennheiser seems to do so many things so consistently well across their headphone product line that I have often wondered why don't they just tune their models closer to the Harman curve to offer (admittedly lazy) buyers like me a "no brainer" option. The HD560S is currently selling for less than one-tenth the price of the DCA E3 and is probably a more practical choice for a complete novice (which is how I would describe myself). I might even discover that I enjoy fiddling a bit with equalization. Thanks for the informative links. I do have one question -- wouldn't planars like the E3 offer more clarity and detail due to faster response? (or is this factor much more complex than that...)
As solderdude was intimating, you don't have to really think about planars vs dynamic drivers, it ultimately comes down to frequency response & distortion.
Thanks for the tip - the HD 620S was introduced so recently that I wasn't even aware of its existence. I have no strong preference concerning open headphones vs. closed, dynamic models vs. planar, as long as they reproduce music realistically (and are reasonably comfortable). I imagine the DCA E3s excel at these qualities, and if price were no object I'd probably invest in a pair without hesitation. But as a retired guy my frugal tendencies encourage me to consider bang-for-buck...
If you're not specifically after the qualities of a closed back headphone, ie sound isolation from your environment - if you're environment is noisy or you don't want people in the same room hearing your music over your headphones, then open backed headphones arguably can offer better benefits to sound quality on the whole vs closed backs. So if you're new to headphones & don't have a decent pair yet, then I'd go open backed if sound isolation is not important to you. You saw my earlier recommendation re HD560s. If you at that point (after EQ) then enjoy the headphone experience you may feel nothing is lacking & then you're done. Alternatively after doing all that you might feel headphone listening is still totally inadequate at which point you'd probably conclude that it is indeed so, and you will have saved yourself $2000 on an expensive experiment, and you won't buy headphones ever again. Finally as the last possible scenario, if you enjoy the EQ'd HD560s and it makes you think headphone listening worthwhile & good, but you feel there's still something lacking in the sound quality, then I'd advise you to jump straight from that to the E3 as I don't think there's much worthiness flapping about in the middle. When I talk about "sound quality" in my previous sentence I'm referring to everything else apart from soundstage, you shouldn't expect to get anymore significantly speaker like soundstage from the E3 than the EQ'd HD560s - I think it's important to understand the limitations of headphones in this respect, and whilst soundstage can be improved from headphone to headphone it's never quite the same as listening to speakers so you shouldn't expect that.

For instance to put some of what I say in previous paragraph into perspective, my best headphones for me after EQ are HD800 / K702 / HD560s, and there's not massive differences in overall quality of experience between them eventhough they all sound a bit different after EQ and all have slightly different soundstage properties and some do better bass or better treble than others - but it's not like there's a massive difference in overall quality of experience. So from my point of view I'm done with headphone purchasing, and if I ever do buy headphones in the future I'm not gonna flap around in the middle (eventhough HD800 is not a middle tier headphone & which in itself leads me to think headphones can only get so good) - the only thing I'd left to experience from a measured excellence position would be Dan Clark E3 in my eyes (Stealth has too much on head variation for my liking). Even then I don't think there is much incremental difference in quality that can be achieved, I'm not that convinced, but if I ever did buy another headphone I'd go straight to the top as I feel I've experimented with many headphones & many different EQ's and already maxed out the middle ground (& top tier too to some extent if you think HD800). But, might be a bit rash for you to go straight to the top, because you're not even sure you like headphone listening, hence refer to my previous paragraph.
 
whilst soundstage can be improved from headphone to headphone it's never quite the same as listening to speakers
Yet it can be drastically different between different headphones, some sound open and spacious, some - close and intimate, and EQ will not be able to change this much. One other important factor in headphone selection, which AFAIR wasn't mentioned here yet, is comfort, in particular the size (including depth) of ear cups. I'm not sure about HD560s but HD600/650 have relatively shallow cups and pinch my ears which makes long continuous usage rather problematic and annoying.
 
As solderdude was intimating, you don't have to really think about planars vs dynamic drivers, it ultimately comes down to frequency response & distortion.

If you're not specifically after the qualities of a closed back headphone, ie sound isolation from your environment - if you're environment is noisy or you don't want people in the same room hearing your music over your headphones, then open backed headphones arguably can offer better benefits to sound quality on the whole vs closed backs. So if you're new to headphones & don't have a decent pair yet, then I'd go open backed if sound isolation is not important to you. You saw my earlier recommendation re HD560s. If you at that point (after EQ) then enjoy the headphone experience you may feel nothing is lacking & then you're done. Alternatively after doing all that you might feel headphone listening is still totally inadequate at which point you'd probably conclude that it is indeed so, and you will have saved yourself $2000 on an expensive experiment, and you won't buy headphones ever again. Finally as the last possible scenario, if you enjoy the EQ'd HD560s and it makes you think headphone listening worthwhile & good, but you feel there's still something lacking in the sound quality, then I'd advise you to jump straight from that to the E3 as I don't think there's much worthiness flapping about in the middle. When I talk about "sound quality" in my previous sentence I'm referring to everything else apart from soundstage, you shouldn't expect to get anymore significantly speaker like soundstage from the E3 than the EQ'd HD560s - I think it's important to understand the limitations of headphones in this respect, and whilst soundstage can be improved from headphone to headphone it's never quite the same as listening to speakers so you shouldn't expect that.

For instance to put some of what I say in previous paragraph into perspective, my best headphones for me after EQ are HD800 / K702 / HD560s, and there's not massive differences in overall quality of experience between them eventhough they all sound a bit different after EQ and all have slightly different soundstage properties and some do better bass or better treble than others - but it's not like there's a massive difference in overall quality of experience. So from my point of view I'm done with headphone purchasing, and if I ever do buy headphones in the future I'm not gonna flap around in the middle (eventhough HD800 is not a middle tier headphone & which in itself leads me to think headphones can only get so good) - the only thing I'd left to experience from a measured excellence position would be Dan Clark E3 in my eyes (Stealth has too much on head variation for my liking). Even then I don't think there is much incremental difference in quality that can be achieved, I'm not that convinced, but if I ever did buy another headphone I'd go straight to the top as I feel I've experimented with many headphones & many different EQ's and already maxed out the middle ground (& top tier too to some extent if you think HD800). But, might be a bit rash for you to go straight to the top, because you're not even sure you like headphone listening, hence refer to my previous paragraph.
I don't really need a closed back. I have a pair of HD 800's to which I put in the Dupont Mod, added Dekoni Fenestrated Sheepskin pads and I have a pair of LCD X's which I updated to 2021 Drivers and added Dekoni sheepskin deluxe pads. I use both with my Smyth A16 Realiser which emulates a 24 channel capture of Dutch & Dutch 8Cs in a nice studio, and a 23 channel of my LS 50 Metas captured in my home. All those setups sound great. Really good for both music and cinema. I don't see how a pair of Dan Clark closed backs could upgrade that setup. Don't need to chase the headphone upgrade rabbit at all anymore. I can just enjoy what I have.
 
I don't really need a closed back. I have a pair of HD 800's to which I put in the Dupont Mod, added Dekoni Fenestrated Sheepskin pads and I have a pair of LCD X's which I updated to 2021 Drivers and added Dekoni sheepskin deluxe pads. I use both with my Smyth A16 Realiser which emulates a 24 channel capture of Dutch & Dutch 8Cs in a nice studio, and a 23 channel of my LS 50 Metas captured in my home. All those setups sound great. Really good for both music and cinema. I don't see how a pair of Dan Clark closed backs could upgrade that setup. Don't need to chase the headphone upgrade rabbit at all anymore. I can just enjoy what I have.
Yeah, you've gone the whole hog with the Smyth Realiser setup haven't you? I mean you've done the in ear measurements (both with speakers & then with the headphones on) and it's all setup properly? Because I understand there's different ways it can be used, but it sounds like you're using it to it's full degree. Yes, you don't need to chase Harman Curve headphones or any headphone because yours have been EQ'd to your own HRTF so to speak. If I'm going to spend any money on "headphone sound" then I should probably do what you've done, but I don't have access to a great studio (not that I've looked)......but you'd have to hire out the studio and then take all your Smyth Realiser & in ear mics and do all the measurements and get it all setup. Still not a simple process.
 
Yeah, you've gone the whole hog with the Smyth Realiser setup haven't you? I mean you've done the in ear measurements (both with speakers & then with the headphones on) and it's all setup properly? Because I understand there's different ways it can be used, but it sounds like you're using it to it's full degree. Yes, you don't need to chase Harman Curve headphones or any headphone because yours have been EQ'd to your own HRTF so to speak. If I'm going to spend any money on "headphone sound" then I should probably do what you've done, but I don't have access to a great studio (not that I've looked)......but you'd have to hire out the studio and then take all your Smyth Realiser & in ear mics and do all the measurements and get it all setup. Still not a simple process.
You should look up John with 3DSoundshop. Smyth can hook you up with the hardware and John can hook you up with first rate software. And remember, once the set up is done, it's done. And there is a community on Head Fi to help you with that. And if you get it you can PM me anytime, because I have some little finer points I can help you with.
 
If you enjoy the EQ'd HD560s and it makes you think headphone listening worthwhile & good, but you feel there's still something lacking in the sound quality, then I'd advise you to jump straight from that to the E3 as I don't think there's much worthiness flapping about in the middle.
Thanks for responding so thoughtfully to my comments. I have an appreciation for the DCA E3 because it's a model that in terms of objective measurements seems to be the total package, at a price that is not unreasonable. This appeals to me because I'm an aging dinosaur (not proud of this; just stating the facts!) and I like audio equipment that gets me to the music with as little intermediary fuss as possible. I've also collected literally thousands of CDs over the years but have no music in digital files (did I mention I'm a dinosaur?) so I figure that equalizing an inexpensive pair of headphones will probably require another piece of hardware to process the signal from my CD player, rather than simply accessing a computer app. (Sorry about this; you would have had no way of knowing about my weird situation.) Like you, I've had the hunch that there isn't much sense in buying multiple iterations of the in-between stuff: either hunt for the high-value headphone that gives you good quality at low cost, or make the platinum purchase, like the DCA E3.
 
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You should look up John with 3DSoundshop. Smyth can hook you up with the hardware and John can hook you up with first rate software. And remember, once the set up is done, it's done. And there is a community on Head Fi to help you with that. And if you get it you can PM me anytime, because I have some little finer points I can help you with.
I'm in UK though, or doesn't matter? And thanks.
Thanks for responding so thoughtfully to my comments. I have an appreciation for the DCA E3 because it's a model that in terms of objective measurements seems to be the total package, at a price that is not unreasonable. This appeals to me because I'm an aging dinosaur (not proud of this; just stating the facts!) and I like audio equipment that gets me to the music with as little intermediary fuss as possible. I've also collected literally thousands of CDs over the years but have no music in digital files (did I mention I'm a dinosaur?) so I figure that equalizing an inexpensive pair of headphones will probably require another piece of hardware to process the signal from my CD player, rather than simply accessing a computer app. (Sorry about this; you would have had no way of knowing about my weird situation.) Like you, I've had the hunch that there isn't much sense in buying multiple iterations of the in-between stuff: either hunt for the high-value headphone that gives you good quality at low cost, or make the platinum purchase, like the DCA E3.
Ah, ok, maybe just go with the E3 then, and if you still don't like headphone listening then sell it - I mean it would be a bit of a hassle and you'd probably lose a bit of money, but go for it then.
 
Ah, ok, maybe just go with the E3 then, and if you still don't like headphone listening then sell it - I mean it would be a bit of a hassle and you'd probably lose a bit of money, but go for itThi
This past April, Amir reviewed the Topping D50 III Balanced DAC with EQ and gave it his full recommendation. It's quite reasonably priced at $229 and it should be able to equalize headphones while I'm using my CD player as the signal source. So there's hope for me yet if I want to try optimizing the performance of entry-level headphones like the HD 560S you recommended (at $149.95 / $129.95 refurbished they're an incredible bargain for the quality). I imagine that in the not-too-distant future, Dan Clark Audio will be offering us the luxury of choice between open and closed versions of the E3, which would make upgrading even more attractive. Thanks for all the encouragement.
 
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This past April, Amir reviewed the Topping D50 III Balanced DAC with EQ and gave it his full recommendation. It's quite reasonably priced at $229 and it should be able to equalize headphones while I'm using my CD player as the signal source.

I think I read in the D50-III that EQ is only available for the USB input, so please reconfirm if you’re expecting to use SPDIF input to connect your CD Player.
 
This past April, Amir reviewed the Topping D50 III Balanced DAC with EQ and gave it his full recommendation. It's quite reasonably priced at $229 and it should be able to equalize headphones while I'm using my CD player as the signal source. So there's hope for me yet if I want to try optimizing the performance of entry-level headphones like the HD 560S you recommended (at $149.95 / $129.95 refurbished they're an incredible bargain for the quality). I imagine that in the not-too-distant future, Dan Clark Audio will be offering us the luxury of choice between open and closed versions of the E3, which would make upgrading even more attractive. Thanks for all the encouragement.

Topping D50 III only has EQ with USB input. It won't work with CD's digital optical or coax. Something like RME ADI 2 has EQ on all inputs (just 5 EQ bands) and is 5 times more expensive than Topping. But something cheaper with EQ on all input is bound to come sooner rather than later.

Be sure to try E3 if possible, to see fit and comfort. Lots of people complain about the clamping force and to be fair, it's on the havier side.
 
This past April, Amir reviewed the Topping D50 III Balanced DAC with EQ and gave it his full recommendation. It's quite reasonably priced at $229 and it should be able to equalize headphones while I'm using my CD player as the signal source. So there's hope for me yet if I want to try optimizing the performance of entry-level headphones like the HD 560S you recommended (at $149.95 / $129.95 refurbished they're an incredible bargain for the quality). I imagine that in the not-too-distant future, Dan Clark Audio will be offering us the luxury of choice between open and closed versions of the E3, which would make upgrading even more attractive. Thanks for all the encouragement.
I don't quite know how the EQ's are inputted into that DAC you mention - it's either gonna be through smartphone connection or PC connection or maybe even through the on screen menus of the device itself, but I don't know which options it has for that, so that's something for you to consider. Well, yeah, it's up to you what you wanna go with, I've given you HD560s recommendations & you've got the E3 as an option - just weigh it up & make your best decision.

EDIT: well I've read the posts above mine now, so you need to consider what they're saying too.
 
I think I read in the D50-III that EQ is only available for the USB input, so please reconfirm if you’re expecting to use SPDIF input to connect your CD Player.
Topping D50 III only has EQ with USB input. It won't work with CD's digital optical or coax.
Be sure to try E3 if possible, to see fit and comfort. Lots of people complain about the clamping force and to be fair, it's on the havier side.
Curse those details! It seems I failed to read the fine print, and jumped to the (mistaken) conclusion I wanted to believe.
Since I've got a narrow head and angular facial shape, the high clamping force of the E3 might actually benefit me in maintaining a good seal. As for its heavier weight, I suppose I'll just have to summon the determination to develop beefer neck muscles...
Thanks for the helpful information.
 
Something like RME ADI 2 has EQ on all inputs (just 5 EQ bands) and is 5 times more expensive than Topping. But something cheaper with EQ on all input is bound to come sooner rather than later.
The Minidsp Flex is around $500 and can apply 10-band equalization to optical and coax inputs, so it will work with a CD player as the signal source. I've never counted how many CDs I've collected (my shelves are groaning under their weight) nor estimated how much I've spent, in total, on their purchase (if I knew that figure it would probably be so staggering it would alarm me). At this stage, investing 5 Benjamins in a signal processor for headphones would not be extravagant. But then, I could just buy the DCA E3 and completely avoid the need for equalization. Hmm...
 
The Minidsp Flex is around $500 and can apply 10-band equalization to optical and coax inputs, so it will work with a CD player as the signal source. I've never counted how many CDs I've collected (my shelves are groaning under their weight) nor estimated how much I've spent, in total, on their purchase (if I knew that figure it would probably be so staggering it would alarm me). At this stage, investing 5 Benjamins in a signal processor for headphones would not be extravagant. But then, I could just buy the DCA E3 and completely avoid the need for equalization. Hmm...
Yes, don't spend $500 on a hardware equaliser solution & then buy the HD560s, ha! Also don't spend $500 on a hardware equaliser solution anyway. Find out what you can sell a DCA E3 2nd hand in the country where you live, and see how much you've got to lose by taking a gamble on the E3. I'm not sure I can think of any good value parametric EQ standalone units that would work connected to your CD player.

EDIT: there's the miniDSP 2x4HD, but that costs more than a "good value" headphone, so you've shot yourself in the foot there anyway.....plus it doesn't measure stellar.
You're gonna get the E3 aren't you! ;)
 
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