Cheap soundcard,dac that supports 24 bit 192khz and MQA

[gasolin75]

Im look at an amp and it could be with a built in dac or not

I started with the amp im using atm with a 16 bit dac and then my asus xonar se analog out to get 24 bit and up to 192khz

It just don't support MGA and with latest tidal you get max sound quality no matter what subscription you choose(max, MQA as long as the songs,record support that)

So why not get that, to hear music at highest quality including MQA (regardless of what people think of MQA)

Audiophonics has a huge selection of hifi including dac, som even the cheap dacs can support more tahn one unit så my pc and dac i should be able to use with only one
in in my current and new amp, in case i don't have to much inputs, if i buy one of the compact class d amp that has become ver popular and can be has for as little as 100 euros


FX-AUDIO FX03 one input 33 euros (does it support MQA, i don't think so ? plug and play no power button)

SMSL PS100 33 euros (more than one input,bluetooth, does it support MQA, i don't think so)

FIIO KA1, IFI Audio GO LINK and Ecersolo H1 for 55-63 euros does support MQA but are all dongle but only one unit

What else i the low budget category supports 24 bit 192khz and MQA ?

 

[staticV3]

The least expensive desktop DAC with MQA support seems to be the SMSL SU-1 and iFi Uno.

 

[gasolin75]

The least expensive desktop DAC with MQA support seems to be the SMSL SU-1 and iFi Uno.

One on audiophincs say the SMSL SU-1 is harsh and has some fattigue

A iFi Audio Go Link also supports MQA and is a little cheaper than the SMSL SU-1 and iFi Uno

Found a cheap used Audioquest dragonfly black that supposrt MQA but only up to 24 bit and 96khz

Forgot to aske what settings (bit and samplerate) i should use for MQA/ tidal when it also has to be used for youtube,facebook and movies like netflix

 

[Vincent Kars]

Your best bet is to set the sample rate to what is common for audio = 44.1 kHz.
Bit depth is the arithmetic precision of the data path between media player and DAC so set it to the max.

Even better imho is to bypass the Win audio completely as this allows for automatic sample rater switching. This requires an app supporting WASAPI/Exclusive. I believe Tidal supports this but do check yourself.

In april 2023 MQA went bankrupt. As a consequence, Tidal started to replace MQA by the unadulterated version. Makes me wonder if MQA support is a relevant criterium today.

 

[gasolin75]

44.1 khz ??

Highest quality is up to 24 bit and 192khz

 

[staticV3]

44.1 khz ??

Highest quality is up to 24 bit and 192khz

You cannot hear tones above 22kHz, therefore >44.1kHz sample rate is mostly useless.

 

[Vincent Kars]

i should use for MQA/ tidal when it also has to be used for youtube,facebook and movies like netflix

As I said, Tidal can probably bypass the Win audio settings so be it 44.1 or XYZ is totally irrelevant.
Other sources, not able to bypass Win like the ones you mentioned, most likely play audio at 44.1 or in case of video 48.

 

[gasolin75]

If i use exclusive mode i can only hear tidal i can't hear 2 sources like tidal and twitch

 

[antcollinet]

44.1 khz ??

Highest quality is up to 24 bit and 192khz

You are wasting your money if you spend one single penny on getting better that 24/48. Any increases in sample rate or bit depth above that is 100% inaudible.

Even (as pointed out by @gasolin75) you won't hear any improvement above redbook/cd at 16/44.1 in real world listening.

 

[gasolin75]

Do we know how many songs,records that are on tidal in MQA vs how many that isn't ?

 

[Veri]

Off topic but isn't Tidal itself also moving away from MQA and to actual higher res masters, no funky encoding schemes?

I wouldn't worry about MQA tbh.

 

[gasolin75]

I now own a Mission 778x (443 euros) fantastic amp,is 24 bit and 192khz okay or is there any tidal max (not mqa since it doesn't support it thru the digital in, im using usb) that is better ?

 

[gwing]

I now own a Mission 778x (443 euros) fantastic amp,is 24 bit and 192khz okay or is there any tidal max (not mqa since it doesn't support it thru the digital in, im using usb) that is better ?

If I understand your question correctly you are asking what the highest bitrate available from Tidal is - and that is 24/192 FLAC.

 

[Verig]

If i use exclusive mode i can only hear tidal i can't hear 2 sources like tidal and twitch

Without exclusive mode you don't need mqa, hi-res or anything as Windows will nuke that anyway.
"Basic" 24/192 is fine in your dac.

 

[gasolin75]

I know max is 24/192khz

But not all is in 24/192khz especially youtube and normal cd quality

I know 16 bit has a 96 db dynamic range and 24 bit is 144db

Best would be if i could use the native bit,samplerate of the music, meaning i could only hear tidal not tidal and twitch if i use exclusive mode with tidal

My question now is what to use to get as high as possible bit/samplerate but not to high compared to my limit (now it's 24 bit and 384 khz) tidal,youtube and netflix (basically streaming services), to high would be like using 4k on youtube when all you got is a 1080p or 1440p monitor

 

[Nutul]

If your DAC is capable of 24/384kHz, that is the maximum you can feed it with.
Any lower resolution will be reproduced. Including YT and Netflix lossy audio (AAC, or whatever it is)
Any higher resolution will not be reproduced.

 

[gasolin75]

Got a mail a few min ago

On July 24, 2024, we will replace the music in TIDAL's MQA catalog with FLAC versions. In addition to this change, we are removing all podcasts and music available in 360 Reality Audio

Is that the end for MQA ?

 

[voodooless]

Is that the end for MQA ?

No, MQA ended month ago when they went bankrupt

These are just the last twitches of a rotten corps.

 

[gasolin75]

The end, like 24 of july theres no streaming services that has MQA music ?

 

[Robin L]

Got a mail a few min ago

On July 24, 2024, we will replace the music in TIDAL's MQA catalog with FLAC versions. In addition to this change, we are removing all podcasts and music available in 360 Reality Audio

Is that the end for MQA ?

Yes, that would be the end to a failed technology.

BTW, the human limits of frequency response is sub 20 hz to a max of 20 khz. Attempting more is a waste of bandwidth. Redbook covers that frequency range. Though greater bit-depth is useful for production/postproduction of digital recordings, 16 bits of a final, normalized recording covers what we will encounter in real world conditions. Between the noise floors of the environments in which we listen to music and the self-noise of our own hearing, 16 bits is as good as our hearing is going to allow.