Carver Crimson 275 Review (Tube Amp)

[Laserjock]

That was from that very special representative here to wave his arms mightily...

Looks like it was directed at another...member.

Carver Crimson 275 Review (Tube Amp)

Listen to it? Why do that? Audio Science Review is about sine waves and powering resistors, not music powering loudspeakers. If its cheap and built to test good, its golden, no need to be musical. Audio reviews without listening. If you don't actually listen to an audio product in a review...

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I knew I saw that somewhere. Thanks for the reference. That’s the one I was trying to reference and knew that if you followed this amp discussion it would be funny.

 

[Laserjock]

I was electrocuted and so was my wife... in the kitchen.

Each amp comes with a calibrated, wooden handled broom…

 

[Doodski]

I was electrocuted and so was my wife... in the kitchen.

I've been zapped so many times I forget them except 2 zaps. One was a very nasty zap and the other a guy that was near dead and did eventually die. It's not to be fooled with. Thankfully I have never taken a zap from a high voltage tube amp.

 

[L0rdGwyn]

I was electrocuted and so was my wife... in the kitchen.

A tube amplified kitchen system? What a flex.

 

[audioholic63]

Each amp comes with a calibrated, wooden handled broom…

The upgraded safety control is an insulated shepherd's crook. But only if you have owned it for less than 30 days.

 

[BDWoody]

Each amp comes with a calibrated, wooden handled broom…

Should include a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator. For when it actually does burn-in.

 

[Blumlein 88]

I've already suggested adding an LED that glows when the chassis is at high voltage. A "Don't Touch Me Now" warning light.

 

[SaltyCDogg]

This drama felt like it was reaching its unsatisfying conclusion, or at the very least the discussion had moved on, but then some new actors of questionable motivation started it up again.

I can't really understand how muddying the water of a 95 page thread that begins in such damning fashion achieves anything.

 

[Gringoaudio1]

I want to be very clear, I am not defending this product and no offense to all the EE’s out here. But if there is the possibility of being electrocuted because of the way it’s designed don’t you think they’d recall it or do whatever they could to limit the liability? The liability from this sort of thing is unlimited. Might even be criminal if someone were killed and the company knew it had faulty wiring.

And I guess this is what is so terribly disappointing. Bob Carver Corporation apparently not even a corporation and it is on top of that a fly-by-night operation. They are likely not financially sound enough to recall these units.

 

[antcollinet]

Yeah, but killing someone could take it to another level. They’ve been making amplifiers long enough to know how to not electrocute someone.

The evidence (complete failure to earth the metal chassis of a non double insulated product containing potentially lethal voltages) suggests otherwise.

 

[antcollinet]

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thanks to... safety codes and standards.
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Exactly.

 

[Everett T]

I want to be very clear, I am not defending this product and no offense to all the EE’s out here. But if there is the possibility of being electrocuted because of the way it’s designed don’t you think they’d recall it or do whatever they could to limit the liability? The liability from this sort of thing is unlimited. Might even be criminal if someone were killed and the company knew it had faulty wiring.

You'd be surprised at how many electrical products are unsafe. From amps destroying speakers to much worse. Emotiva has a suspect history with this, as well as Arcus and their history of no DC offset protection for years.

 

[egellings]

If they all have that itty-bitty output transformerlet under the can, they will not live up to spec.

 

[Greg P]

That is not the case--at least as far as the term Quality Control was officially used--with the software companies I worked for, but it is certainly a good idea and I'm glad to hear it is being implemented at the design phase. Maybe it long has been when it comes tphardware, and I was just unaware of it.

Yes, I would say that Tony Collett's definition applies more to QA than QC.

 

[DFW]

You'd be surprised at how many electrical products are unsafe. From amps destroying speakers to much worse. Emotiva has a suspect history with this, as well as Arcus and their history of no DC offset protection for years.

A bit late to the party but it’s been an enlightening discussion for me. I was about to buy one then fell into the rabbit hole….

 

[Laserjock]

This or a Topping PA5 with a Schiit Freya + ?

 

[Laserjock]

This drama felt like it was reaching its unsatisfying conclusion, or at the very least the discussion had moved on, but then some new actors of questionable motivation started it up again.

I can't really understand how muddying the water of a 95 page thread that begins in such damning fashion achieves anything.

Wilson Audio is thankful for this thread

 

[vkhong]

Come visit Bob Carver Corp in person
Florida Audio Expo - Listening in Paradise, Feb 18 to 20, 2022, Tampa, Florida, US

 

[AudioTodd]

Yeah, but killing someone could take it to another level. They’ve been making amplifiers long enough to know how to not electrocute someone.

Clearly not

 

[Shazb0t]

A bit late to the party but it’s been an enlightening discussion for me. I was about to buy one then fell into the rabbit hole….

If the multiple standardized test results and discussion aren't enough to steer you away from this overpriced pile, then I don't know what else possibly could.