Where be this thread? I wont take another listening test after trying one before and realizing its pretty disappointing, but I do want to read through the info and learn. Thanks.We have a thread here about that, with listening tests, as a matter of fact.
Where be this thread? I wont take another listening test after trying one before and realizing its pretty disappointing, but I do want to read through the info and learn. Thanks.
How can they be completely transparent if they introduce distortion?I like tubes because they are cool. I’m always confused by people who say I’m looking for a tube like sound. I’m not. I prefer a very neutral sound and despise “tube bloom” or distortion. I like them because they are cool and when properly done will be completely audibly transparent. I realize they are a relic. It’s a hobby, so you can fiddle with tubes and have a little fun or just buy a Hypex and be done. No wrong answer here. I’ve heard both. Pretty hard to tell the difference in the best of them, just saying.
They don't necessarily have to introduce audible distortion. That's mostly modern tube gear made for the boutique sound. Once upon a time the best tube gear was transparent.How can they be completely transparent if they introduce distortion?
Hey this is great. Really. Thanks.View attachment 307559Here , this chart gives an good idea about what messing with different regions can get you .
Just curious but what do you base this claim off of? I mean, is there any objective way to show such a claim to be true?They don't necessarily have to introduce audible distortion. That's mostly modern tube gear made for the boutique sound. Once upon a time tube gear was transparent.
Measurements on older gear. Also, ask the tube designers here. Tubes do not have to be distortion boxes, that simply sells.Just curious but what do you base this claim off of? I mean, is there any objective way to show such a claim to be true?
Okay, do you know any gear to look into thats older and is transparent, particularly a preamp heh. I am looking at the Freya+ but would like an older one minus headphone amp if possible.Measurements on older gear. Also, ask the tube designers here. Tubes do not have to be distortion boxes, that simply sells.
How can they be completely transparent if they introduce distortion?
Just curious but what do you base this claim off of? I mean, is there any objective way to show such a claim to be true?
Didn’t say they were completely transparent. I said they were audibly transparent. My point is if you need testing equipment to detect any noticeable difference then it’s most likely a pretty well designed piece of tube gear. To me it’s sort of like a DAC with 120 sinad vs one with 100. You can measure it, but you can’t hear it. Admittedly, tube pre amps seem to measure better than amplifiers by comparison to SS.How can they be completely transparent if they introduce distortion?
So why not, if it fullfills the job? Esp. for dealers it's worthy to do soBut you are creating your very own sound unique to you.
Keith
It's not hi-fi anymore, either. But knock yourself silly if you like how it sounds.So why not, if it fullfills the job? Esp. for dealers it's worthy to do so
It's not religion.
So why not, if it fullfills the job? Esp. for dealers it's worthy to do so
It's not religion.