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Why does this thong cost so much? Is it using exotic parts? Hard to design?
Why does this thong cost so much? Is it using exotic parts? Hard to design?
This reminds me of a contentious thread I participated in on a pro audio forum.
Antelope Audio makes a variety of ADC-DAC units and external clocks. They were one of the first marketers of “atomic clocks”. They always implied big sonic benefits to their external clocks while being careful with the language of the claims.
Anyway, as they do, they announced three new products: converter, external clock 1, and external “super clock 2.”
Then they got a big name producer to declare (paraphrase) “the improvement in sound from the new converter was amazing, but when I added the SuperClock my jaw literally dropped...I have never heard audio this brilliant, literally a night-and-day difference!”
A number of us readers were skeptical leading to an acrimonious debate between the celebrity producer and us cranky, Grammy-lacking loser trolls.
A manufactures rep was on the thread trying to stay nuetral. Finally he decided to prepare some “loopback” files to compare.
There were four files:
1 - original music
2 - looped back through plain DAC-ADC
3 - looped back with same converter clocked to external clock
4 - looped back through same converter with SuperClock.
Files were uploaded for anyone to compare and a long session of ABX testing (software) began, with people posting screenshots of their results.
I was not able to distinguish the original from any of the looped back versions!
So I had to bow out. But amazingly one person could consistently distinguish all files from each other! According to the screen shots of their test results. Assuming they didn’t cheat (it would have been easy but what’s the point) this was an extraordinary result.
This persons comment was that part of this was they were listening in their mastering studio on their $40k speakers and sooper audio path setup.
Most of the rest of us were listening in recording studios or home studios with much cheaper setups.
I actually did try it in our other room where there some better monitors for a while, and was able to distinguish between original and copies at slightly higher than chance. But this took huge concentration, and I didn’t even bother trying to distinguish between the different clocked versions.
Even the results of the golden ears champ said nothing about subject sound quality, they just were able to distinguish the files consistently.
I am haunted by this to this day.
This reminds me of a contentious thread I participated in on a pro audio forum.
Antelope Audio makes a variety of ADC-DAC units and external clocks. They were one of the first marketers of “atomic clocks”. They always implied big sonic benefits to their external clocks while being careful with the language of the claims.
Anyway, as they do, they announced three new products: converter, external clock 1, and external “super clock 2.”
Then they got a big name producer to declare (paraphrase) “the improvement in sound from the new converter was amazing, but when I added the SuperClock my jaw literally dropped...I have never heard audio this brilliant, literally a night-and-day difference!”
A number of us readers were skeptical leading to an acrimonious debate between the celebrity producer and us cranky, Grammy-lacking loser trolls.
A manufactures rep was on the thread trying to stay nuetral. Finally he decided to prepare some “loopback” files to compare.
There were four files:
1 - original music
2 - looped back through plain DAC-ADC
3 - looped back with same converter clocked to external clock
4 - looped back through same converter with SuperClock.
Files were uploaded for anyone to compare and a long session of ABX testing (software) began, with people posting screenshots of their results.
I was not able to distinguish the original from any of the looped back versions!
So I had to bow out. But amazingly one person could consistently distinguish all files from each other! According to the screen shots of their test results. Assuming they didn’t cheat (it would have been easy but what’s the point) this was an extraordinary result.
This persons comment was that part of this was they were listening in their mastering studio on their $40k speakers and sooper audio path setup.
Most of the rest of us were listening in recording studios or home studios with much cheaper setups.
I actually did try it in our other room where there some better monitors for a while, and was able to distinguish between original and copies at slightly higher than chance. But this took huge concentration, and I didn’t even bother trying to distinguish between the different clocked versions.
Even the results of the golden ears champ said nothing about subject sound quality, they just were able to distinguish the files consistently.
I am haunted by this to this day.
I don't doubt the prices are right, but the bit above, it's meant to be a joke right?When I heard the Trinity combo in its own rack (for a total of $210,000), I understood why some reviewers say that Digital has arrived. To my ears it is now shockingly close, but not yet equal, to the sound I get from my TT , the Derenville VPM 2010-1 which cost without cartridge about $450,000.
When you factor all this in, the Trinity combinaison, is a screaming Bargain.
lolI don't doubt the prices are right, but the bit above, it's meant to be a joke right?
Lapsus digiti.My typo...
Short paraphrase:Hi
I know for a fact the Auralic Stack (StReamer, DAC, Clock) is no match for the dCS stack or the Trinity Reference DAC Stack.. The Auralic stack is good for its price but one needs to understand that there is no way, any stack costing around $20,000, will ever surpass the over $100,000 dCS stack or the Trinity Stack :Trinity Power DAC ($49,000), TRINITY Golden Reference Media PC & Transport (US$ 42,000) and TRINITY Golden Reference Power Supply Unit ($22,400.00). It is the best Digital I have heard ....
Or so I thought until I heard the Trinity trio in its own rack: the TRINITY RACK with Touchscreen and gold-plated Spacers at $59,500...
When I heard the Trinity combo in its own rack (for a total of $210,000), I understood why some reviewers say that Digital has arrived. To my ears it is now shockingly close, but not yet equal, to the sound I get from my TT , the Derenville VPM 2010-1 which cost without cartridge about $450,000.
When you factor all this in, the Trinity combinaison, is a screaming Bargain.
In that light the Auralic combo at about $22,000, is the proverbial Steal of the Century!!!
P.S. None of these prices are invented. Products are real and prices are MSRP. If you want the best .. then ...
Antelope seems to be shifting much focus to the audiophile market. I know they sell a lot of product in Europe and Asia, as do most audiophile companies nowadays, even ones based purely in North America.This reminds me of a contentious thread I participated in on a pro audio forum.
Antelope Audio makes a variety of ADC-DAC units and external clocks. They were one of the first marketers of “atomic clocks”. They always implied big sonic benefits to their external clocks while being careful with the language of the claims.
Anyway, as they do, they announced three new products: converter, external clock 1, and external “super clock 2.”
Then they got a big name producer to declare (paraphrase) “the improvement in sound from the new converter was amazing, but when I added the SuperClock my jaw literally dropped...I have never heard audio this brilliant, literally a night-and-day difference!”
A number of us readers were skeptical leading to an acrimonious debate between the celebrity producer and us cranky, Grammy-lacking loser trolls.
A manufactures rep was on the thread trying to stay nuetral. Finally he decided to prepare some “loopback” files to compare.
There were four files:
1 - original music
2 - looped back through plain DAC-ADC
3 - looped back with same converter clocked to external clock
4 - looped back through same converter with SuperClock.
Files were uploaded for anyone to compare and a long session of ABX testing (software) began, with people posting screenshots of their results.
I was not able to distinguish the original from any of the looped back versions!
So I had to bow out. But amazingly one person could consistently distinguish all files from each other! According to the screen shots of their test results. Assuming they didn’t cheat (it would have been easy but what’s the point) this was an extraordinary result.
This persons comment was that part of this was they were listening in their mastering studio on their $40k speakers and sooper audio path setup.
Most of the rest of us were listening in recording studios or home studios with much cheaper setups.
I actually did try it in our other room where there some better monitors for a while, and was able to distinguish between original and copies at slightly higher than chance. But this took huge concentration, and I didn’t even bother trying to distinguish between the different clocked versions.
Even the results of the golden ears champ said nothing about subject sound quality, they just were able to distinguish the files consistently.
I am haunted by this to this day.
Positive note: Auralic managed with this clock not degrade the DAC. This is an accomplishement.
Negative note: ASR is destroying my richness dreams. What am I to buy when I get billionaire?.
Since the only thing we connect to the rest of the system is the analogue output of the DAC if this is not improved sound quality can not be.What if .... someone tells you:
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I cannot save you as you are deaf and blind....
Do not need to mention masterclock, changing the clock cable is a day and night difference.
You just need to connect the cable to an oscilloscope and check eye diagram, you can see how much jitter it has
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I do not have oscilloscope by my hands....can someone test it?
Positive note: Auralic managed with this clock not degrade the DAC. This is an accomplishement.
Negative note: ASR is destroying my richness dreams. What am I to buy when I get billionaire?.
A supercar to respect the limits, a superyacht to stay at the marina, a mansion with rooms you never step a foot into and a hifi gear that surpass 10 times the acoustic capabilities of your hearing. Pure happiness