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Audiovector QR1

Time for my opinion...

I can't tell you whether or not these speakers are "worth the price". For me I would say "No". But I am not in the habit of spending 2K on a pair of bookshelf speakers either. The ones that I am listening to right now as I type are some mid 80s Scott 166 speakers. Sealed with a 6.5" treated paper woofer and a Philips tweeter. To me they sound wonderful and they cost me all of $150 for the pair a few years ago.

Also I read the info on these speakers from their website and some of the language used seemed to be a bit in the realm of "snake oil". I mean why do I need "cryogenically treated pure copper wiring" anyway?

So value is something you have to decide on and also what is available to you where you live. I just looked on the Parts Express website because I know that they have some similar speakers for about $200 per pair, although right now they are listed as unavailable. There were a few listing for the speakers on Ebay. Here is a listing from Australia...
www.ebay.com

DAYTON AUDIO B652-AIR 6.5" BOOKSHELF AMT RIBBON SPEAKERS PAIR 848791001598 | eBay

6.5" Bookshelf AMT Ribbon Speakers. Higher-quality AMT tweeter. Product Category: Bookshelf Speaker. Compact, unobtrusive design w/ exceptional performance & value. Black ebony pica vinyl cabinet finish giving a clean & modern appearance.
www.ebay.com

Most reviews I found had no measurements at all. They may be very good sounding speakers but you may also decide that a sub is needed for the bottom end. No matter how good a 6" woofer is, it isn't going to dig that deep down in the bass...
 
coonmanx said:
Time for my opinion...

I can't tell you whether or not these speakers are "worth the price". For me I would say "No". But I am not in the habit of spending 2K on a pair of bookshelf speakers either. The ones that I am listening to right now as I type are some mid 80s Scott 166 speakers. Sealed with a 6.5" treated paper woofer and a Philips tweeter. To me they sound wonderful and they cost me all of $150 for the pair a few years ago.

Also I read the info on these speakers from their website and some of the language used seemed to be a bit in the realm of "snake oil". I mean why do I need "cryogenically treated pure copper wiring" anyway?

So value is something you have to decide on and also what is available to you where you live. I just looked on the Parts Express website because I know that they have some similar speakers for about $200 per pair, although right now they are listed as unavailable. There were a few listing for the speakers on Ebay. Here is a listing from Australia...
www.ebay.com

DAYTON AUDIO B652-AIR 6.5" BOOKSHELF AMT RIBBON SPEAKERS PAIR 848791001598 | eBay

6.5" Bookshelf AMT Ribbon Speakers. Higher-quality AMT tweeter. Product Category: Bookshelf Speaker. Compact, unobtrusive design w/ exceptional performance & value. Black ebony pica vinyl cabinet finish giving a clean & modern appearance.
www.ebay.com

Most reviews I found had no measurements at all. They may be very good sounding speakers but you may also decide that a sub is needed for the bottom end. No matter how good a 6" woofer is, it isn't going to dig that deep down in the bass...
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Thanks for your response, really appreciate it— I would however prefer to hear from someone who has had the opportunity to listen to them or maybe even measure them. I am specifically looking for bookshelf speakers, because I am moving for 2 years into a smaller apartment due to work relocation, and I don’t want to bother the neighbors. I have a high end full size Quad setup with mono blocks stored away, so I don’t think I will be adding a subwoofer. I will drive the speakers from a a90d/la90d combo, so sensitivity is important as is low end performance, as I won‘t be adding a sub.
 
Bookshelf speaker
High sensitivity
Deep bass

Pick 2
 
I get using bookshelf speakers in an apartment. It just makes sense. 6" woofer isn't going to dig down and give you that low bass but once again I get it. Have to keep the neighbors happy. I mean, these do look like well made speakers. I just thought that their description on their webpage was a bit over the top.

Like this...
"Our new highly specialized double cryogenic polypropylene tin flash copper capacitors are the result of constant listening, measuring, and improvement."
 
coonmanx said:
I get using bookshelf speakers in an apartment. It just makes sense. 6" woofer isn't going to dig down and give you that low bass but once again I get it. Have to keep the neighbors happy. I mean, these do look like well made speakers. I just thought that their description on their webpage was a bit over the top.

Like this...
"Our new highly specialized double cryogenic polypropylene tin flash copper capacitors are the result of constant listening, measuring, and improvement."
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I agree and have to admit that for my first headphone amp, I bought cryogenically treated tubes, hahaha but hey, they sounded great to me
 
AdamFrandsen said:
Only measurements I could find were these
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Found this... basic measurements though;
www.hifi-voice.com

Audiovector QR 1

Nová řada QR od dánských Audiovector sestává pouze ze dvou modelů, jednoho sloupku QR 3 a jednoho regálového provedení s názvem QR 1. Ten se trefuje do dostupnějších sfér, než zbytek firemního portfolia a navíc se drží typických znaků Audiovector, tedy zejména páskového tweeteru. Výrobce se pak...
www.hifi-voice.com www.hifi-voice.com

2017-01-05-TST-Audiovector-QR1-m1.png



JSmith
 
A similar alternative is Monitor Audio gold 100. Seems reasonable though not as ideal measurements as say an Ascend speaker. The Sierra LX is the pick there for bass capability.
Imo if there's any worry of disturbing neighbours any amp would do save for some 3W tube amp
 
Penelinfi said:
A similar alternative is Monitor Audio gold 100. Seems reasonable though not as ideal measurements as say an Ascend speaker. The Sierra LX is the pick there for bass capability.
Imo if there's any worry of disturbing neighbours any amp would do save for some 3W tube amp
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I saw a video (I know you cannot really judge from a video…) and it had the monitor audio silver gold 100 up against Dynaudio Evoke, and to me the Monitor audio seemed very hot in the treble region… I have looked at the Ascend speakers, and they are unfortunately not easy to find in Europe.
 
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coonmanx said:
Yikes...
www.effectrode.com

Cryogenic Treatment of Tubes: An Engineer’s Perspective - Effectrode

www.effectrode.com www.effectrode.com

I thought I would get a bit of Google knowledge and then came across this article.
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Yes, I have read similar articles about it. Limited research has been done with electronics, but here is a research article about some potential benefits: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4701/9/6/631

Not saying it works wonders or isn’t more destructive than beneficial, I simply don’t know.
 
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I owned QR1 for 1+ year. Got them for something like 1k euro new at that time.
Nice looks, great finish, ok sound. They sounded "right" but a bit boring. Nothing in that sound stands out. Also, they had rather narrow horizontal dispersion - you'd need to point them right at you to get the "right sound" which was bothering me too much.

Went for XTZ 99.25 MkII - a little less nice looks, still great finish, full/wide sound (they've got some very good bass for bookshelf speakers). Got them for 750$ new, so much more value than QR1.
Also got myself Kef R3 - very detailed ("holographic"), plus they got some low bass for bookshelf. They cost more than QR1, but also they feel like an upgrade for QR1 in every aspect.

Anyway, still love XTZ 99.25 MkII the most - that wide sound is just something.
 
JSmith said:
Found this... basic measurements though;
www.hifi-voice.com

Audiovector QR 1

Nová řada QR od dánských Audiovector sestává pouze ze dvou modelů, jednoho sloupku QR 3 a jednoho regálového provedení s názvem QR 1. Ten se trefuje do dostupnějších sfér, než zbytek firemního portfolia a navíc se drží typických znaků Audiovector, tedy zejména páskového tweeteru. Výrobce se pak...
www.hifi-voice.com www.hifi-voice.com

2017-01-05-TST-Audiovector-QR1-m1.png



JSmith
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Interesting, very different from the other one…
 
Ryogo said:
I owned QR1 for 1+ year. Got them for something like 1k euro new at that time.
Nice looks, great finish, ok sound. They sounded "right" but a bit boring. Nothing in that sound stands out. Also, they had rather narrow horizontal dispersion - you'd need to point them right at you to get the "right sound" which was bothering me too much.

Went for XTZ 99.25 MkII - a little less nice looks, still great finish, full/wide sound (they've got some very good bass for bookshelf speakers). Got them for 750$ new, so much more value than QR1.
Also got myself Kef R3 - very detailed ("holographic"), plus they got some low bass for bookshelf. They cost more than QR1, but also they feel like an upgrade for QR1 in every aspect.

Anyway, still love XTZ 99.25 MkII the most - that wide sound is just something.
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There is a pair for sale of the XTZ in my region in Europe for around 430 USD, I did look at them, haven’t heard them live, but from clips they sound a little boxy in the male vocal range… The R3 are just that much more expensive, so not in my budget for this. The used pair of QR1 I am looking at is around 700 USD. Weird about the directivity of the QR1, given the measurements in my first post… hmm food for thought
 
Ryogo said:
I owned QR1 for 1+ year. Got them for something like 1k euro new at that time.
Nice looks, great finish, ok sound. They sounded "right" but a bit boring. Nothing in that sound stands out. Also, they had rather narrow horizontal dispersion - you'd need to point them right at you to get the "right sound" which was bothering me too much.

Went for XTZ 99.25 MkII - a little less nice looks, still great finish, full/wide sound (they've got some very good bass for bookshelf speakers). Got them for 750$ new, so much more value than QR1.
Also got myself Kef R3 - very detailed ("holographic"), plus they got some low bass for bookshelf. They cost more than QR1, but also they feel like an upgrade for QR1 in every aspect.

Anyway, still love XTZ 99.25 MkII the most - that wide sound is just something.
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Is there a big difference between the XTZ 99.25 and 99.26 MKII, they have a pair of those for sale even cheaper in white, which I would prefer
 
AdamFrandsen said:
Is there a big difference between the XTZ 99.25 and 99.26 MKII, they have a pair of those for sale even cheaper in white, which I would prefer
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There should be a noticeable difference in mid-range clarity due to new crossover in mk2.
Also, try to look for LCR (which is basically an mk3).
Best bet would be if you could find 99.25 / 99.26 with beryllium twitter upgrade.
 
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