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AudioQuest Wind High-end Cable Review

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You mean after 500 hour burn in, in each direction?

Yes. Unfortunately, most audiophiles are time poor (and cash rich) so we offer the Re-energizer Quantum Express ($999) which accelerates the rejuvenation process. Pick that option on checkout and bundle with two mains cables to get free postage and a discount voucher for your next purchase!
 
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Ok, I hope there are bigger brains than mine here on this site, I would like to ask {2) questions; why are cables made with directional indications, music is AC and flows in both directions and why "high end"cables supposed to be elevated from the floor for "best performance". I have asked dealers and folks who "beleive" and have not received a reasonable explanation. I was asked to leave the premises from one local "dealer" for asking. Never went back. I have tried both and could not discern the difference, maybe I'm challenged here.
 

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Would make a lot more sense. Pretty telling that it had me fooled though :D

Lol if it is the same guy, he’s always been incredibly good at leaving just enough ambiguity that you can’t quite be sure whether it’s parody or not. I’ve even wondered whether he actually ends up getting genuine sales requests. Hopefully someone else here sees this and knows/remembers more :)
 

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Is there a single Audioquest product that is both a) not overpriced and b) not snake oil or mediocre at best?
I really enjoy my Audioquest Nighthawk headphones, and don't care what anyone says about them. Never owned anything else from them.
Don't buy expensive cables.
 

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Is there a single Audioquest product that is both a) not overpriced and b) not snake oil or mediocre at best?
I do not think so. Their production quality and designs are not particularly good.
 
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Ok, I hope there are bigger brains than mine here on this site, I would like to ask {2) questions; why are cables made with directional indications, music is AC and flows in both directions and why "high end"cables supposed to be elevated from the floor for "best performance". I have asked dealers and folks who "beleive" and have not received a reasonable explanation. I was asked to leave the premises from one local "dealer" for asking. Never went back. I have tried both and could not discern the difference, maybe I'm challenged here.
If you are talking about the good application of the practice of directionality, in an RCA cable, it is quite simply, in the sense that it goes from the source to preamp, preamp to amp, and so on, and the labels are just so you can look at the middle of a long cable and get some information about how it is being used. For pre-printed star quad cable, etc., you might make RCAs, or other cables including XLRs and others that actually have directional connectors, so then this printed information can help you to run a long cable in the right direction. It is just labeling, similar to how, on my in wall speaker cables I put numbers every foot on every cable, and labled the wall plates, so if anyone ever tears open a wall and finds a speaker wire, it should be easy.to figure out without any testing, even though they can only see part of the wire.
 

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Ok, I hope there are bigger brains than mine here on this site, I would like to ask {2) questions; why are cables made with directional indications, music is AC and flows in both directions and why "high end"cables supposed to be elevated from the floor for "best performance". I have asked dealers and folks who "beleive" and have not received a reasonable explanation. I was asked to leave the premises from one local "dealer" for asking. Never went back. I have tried both and could not discern the difference, maybe I'm challenged here.
It's not for the signal, it's for the grounding shield, in a legitimate application. Often, you will have a grounding shield that is only tied to the ground connection in one side. In this scenario, you want the shield tied to the low impedance side.

you sometimes see this on capacitors.
 

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Is there a single Audioquest product that is both a) not overpriced and b) not snake oil or mediocre at best?

i have a record cleaning brush (though I'm pretty sure it's a white labeled audio technica one) that is fine and was cheap. Also have bought some 90 adapters for both iec power as well as rca, those were cheap enough on eBay.
 

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I bought an Audioquest Pearl HDMI cable that works as intended for UHD HDR use. It was not more expensive then other brand cables and it is light and flexible. So i like it.
For UHD HDR some generic HDMI cables might have dropouts or no signal at all as i experienced.
You can sure find cheaper HDMI cables that will work for UHD HDR but you have to try them and maybe lose money in the process.
They also have nice looking interconnects for 25, 30 euros or so. If you care for esthetics. Of course, they sound the same as 3 euro cable.
I would spend 20 to 50 euros more, depending, for a nice looking cable even though it does not sound better then the cheaper ugly cable. I am fully aware, though, why i am spending more. Of course, I would never spend 1000 euros more for esthetics and luxury of exotic cable even if it did bring 1% improvement in sound, which it doesn't.
But rich people spend 10K on designer bags or whatnot. What about luxury wrist watch? Tells the time the same as my phone. So why not spend whatever on a luxury audiophile cable if you have the money... But be aware what you buy.
 

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When it comes to insanely priced audiofool cables - the thousands of dollars range one has a sneaking bit of sympathy. This is all about liberating money from people who clearly have vastly more wealth than most of us can imagine and don’t have the intelligence to justify it. The manufacturers probably throw a party every time they get an order.
I am a great believer in the notion that you place a product at every possible price point. There is always someone who has even more money to spend, and the trick is to ensure you get that additional money instead of it going to some other seller of useless bling. Every luxury brand worked this out aeons ago. If someone wanders into your HiFi shop and has a half million dollar watch on their wrist, you will have failed if you have not lightened their wallet by a few thousands on some cables. So you need to have them for sale.
Extracting money from the dumb rich has a long and glorious history.
 

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Or those rich people are not dumb, but just decide to give something to the poor sometimes.
Either way I feel sorry for the not rich guy who falls prey to cable guys and think he is getting sound improvement and pays hard earned premium.
 

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Or those rich people are not dumb, but just decide to give something to the poor sometimes.
Either way I feel sorry for the not rich guy who falls prey to cable guys and think he is getting sound improvement and pays hard earned premium.
Hey, as long as the not rich fool guy trusts his ears and is happy, I don't care. No one is making me spend more than $80 on a cable.

I assume the not rich guy just didn't bother to read ASR.
 
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Sometimes i wonder what if all the money spent in this court of miracles that is the cable market, had been redirected to for example the speaker market instead. But always reassuring to think you ve put the money where it really matters.
 

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This is a review and detailed measurements of the AudioQuest Wind RCA "PSS Silver" cable. The sample I have was kindly donated by a member and costs US $2,300 in the 1 meter configuration. No, that is not a typo. It is over two thousand dollars for a pair.

The cable comes in a rather cheap carrying case. What is that about? Are you going to carry this to your friend's house to show off? Or store the cable in it until the right romantic moment to pop it out to use with your system?

The cable itself has the look of "high-end" cables:

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As you see it also has their "DBS" (Dielectric Bias System) which puts a static DC voltage along one wire in the cable. I have tested the DBS to have no effect in my previous Audioquest Victoria Cable review. I will take another shot at it here in a different way.

Usually these cables have a death grip on the RCA connectors but not these. They would hold on but softly and no more than any generic cable. Given their heavy weight though, I wish there was more holding power. You can see part of the reason for this is the super thin outer RCA ring:

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Back to the weight, the inclusion of the DBS battery pack makes these cantilever even more. Be sure to have super sturdy RCA connectors on your gear before you use these. Or else, invest extra in cable lifters because you physically need them here.

AudioQuest Wind Audio Measurements
These cables can go three different ways: do nothing, do something good, or make things worse. Let's start with our usual dashboard to see if we can get quick indication of any of these options. But first, let's test our setup with a generic 1 meter cable I got for free in a DVD player I think some 20 years ago. It is a single cable (i.e. not stereo pair) like the Wind:

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Bless my $28,000 Audio Precision APx555 for generating such a clean signal and ability to measure it just the same. Combined noise and distortion are below -121 dB at 2 volts output. The spectrum of distortion and noise goes down to whopping -160 dB courtesy of signal processing (FFT process gain). The only thing visible at this low level is mains AC leakage to the tune of -145 dB.

Now let's switch to Audioquest Wind with the same setup:

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Overall numbers remain the same but I see that the mains leakage has gone up 7 to 8 dB. And now we see its third harmonic at 180 Hz as well which we did not see before. Put a pin in this for now and we will come back to it.

To go after testing impact of DBS, I thought I reverse the cable. Whatever it is about, should get totally screwed up since the battery is supposed to be at one end of the cable:

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Not a thing changes. We are going to depth of noise and distortion analysis that is so many orders of magnitude lower than our hearing that it is not funny. Yet there is no effect whatsoever. Clearly the DBS circuit is doing nothing here as the "designers" say it does.

One of the most audible thing in audio is frequency response. You don't need golden ears to hear differences when frequency response changes. Often give a free pass to people using such cables and hearing differences that there must have been filters in them that changed the frequency response. So let's measure that with super high precision and high bandwidth:

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I usually run this test with ± 5 dB vertical axis. Here, I have gone to ±1 dB and there is still no difference between no cable, 1 meter generic cable and Audioquest Wind. Bandwidth of the test is also expanded to 200 kHz and yet there is still no difference.

Now let's measure the noise that exists in the system with the cable hooked up but nothing driving it:
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We see that the AudioQuest Wind (red) clearly has higher mains noise. So I thought of a way to test susceptibility to mains noise by taking an AC transformer (from a desktop DAC), plugging it in and then holding it next to the cable. Note that there is no electrical connection between the transformer and the cable. The transformer is simply being held by the cable to allow coupling into the cable. This is what happened:

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Wow! The generic cable in blue picked up a bit more noise but look at the AudioQuest Wind in solid red. It is picking up huge amount of mains noise relative to our generic cable! Stunning how high-end cables are sold with the impression that they reduce noise and such and yet this cable is clearly much more susceptible to interference than free cable.

What is amazing about this is a bullet in the product feature list from AudioQuest:

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It is easy to accomplish 100% shield coverage? So why do we not have it here? And what noise dissipation?

AudioQuest Wind Cable Listening Test
I hooked up my RME ADI-2 FS DAC V2 to a Topping A90 high-performance headphone amplifier alternatively using the Audioquest Wind and Generic able. The output of the A90 drove my Ether CX headphone. I could not detect a difference between the two in this limited testing. Mind you, there was more air when listening to the Wind. But then my wife who was in the kitchen informed me that the dogs had left the patio door open and whether I was OK if she closed it. Once she did, the air factor disappeared.

Conclusions
You know, it is one thing to sell a cable for a lot more money that does nothing extra. It is entirely another matter when the cable actually screws up the signal much worse than a free cable as the AudioQuest Wind seems to be doing here. Whether it is the outer RCA connector that is not gripping properly, the construction of the cable, or both, clearly the basic job of doing no harm is not followed. A bit of measuring like I did would have shown problems like this to them. But of course they did not bother. They imagined a bunch of problems, created imagined solutions to them, and started to sell the product with unverified claims as I quoted.

So please folks, I don't care which audio camp you are in. Ask manufacturers to demonstrate what the benefits they advertise. They say they lower noise? Ask them to show before and after measurements. We know how to measure noise. If we don't, how do they know they reduced noise at all?

Anyway, of course I cannot recommend the AudioQuest Wind cable in any form or fashion.

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Yes. Unfortunately, most audiophiles are time poor (and cash rich) so we offer the Re-energizer Quantum Express ($999) which accelerates the rejuvenation process. Pick that option on checkout and bundle with two mains cables to get free postage and a discount voucher for your next purchase!

To heck with the cables. I want to try this on myself. Quantum sourced rejuvenation to make me 20 years younger for that price... I'll be first in line.
 

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Sometimes i wonder what if all the money spent in this court of miracles that is the cable market, had been redirected to for example the speaker market instead. But always reassuring to think you ve put the money where it really matters.
While speakers have the most impact on sound compared to budget, lots of consumers make terrible choices here, and unlike cables and DACs, they don't all sound (almost) the same.
 

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To heck with the cables. I want to try this on myself. Quantum sourced rejuvenation to make me 20 years younger for that price... I'll be first in line.

Read the instructions, if you use it the back to front, it could age you 20 years.
 
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In that movie Tenet, it looks like you might come at it from both directions by 20 years. Who knows what happens then. o_O
 
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