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Audiophonics DA-S250NC and DAW-S250NC : new integrated amps with DAC (streamer) and Ncore !

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Ok, I downloaded the manual for this thing, which I am seriously considering buying. It all seemed like pretty standard stuff until I encountered this:

"3. 2nd harmonic This parameter allows you to adjust the gain level of the second harmonic, which can in some cases offer a more musical sound reproduction. Four gain levels are available: 1. Normal (default) 2. +3dB 3. +6dB 4. +12dB"

Would someone like to explain adjusting the gain of the second harmonic to me? How? Why? More musical sound reproduction ? !!!
 
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Would someone like to explain adjusting the gain of the second harmonic to me? Why?
To please subjectivists.

Topping had the same idea with D90LE:
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At the end of the day, you don't bother since you don't have to use it.
 
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That is what I guessed, and I suppose it is easy enough to add distortion to an amplifier. The fact that I can turn off the snake oil doesn't help, it's existance is an insult. I feel exactly the same way about the modern "performance" cars that pipe fake engine noises thru the stereo. Not buying those either, I'm old enough to find them laughable.
 

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Well, I don't give a damn either but at least is something real, I would be pragmatic and just ignore it, let alone taking it as an insult.
Otherwise I recommend you not to visit certain DAC ICs manufacturers websites or you will end up having to bake your own chips....


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I see nothing in the manual about how the screen behaves, or if it is dimmable. Quite an important feature since so many of us use integrated amps in a HT set-up too.

I did however read this. Is this an artefact of the parts they assemble, or a promise of a future model of this amplifier with a streaming module?

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Would someone like to explain adjusting the gain of the second harmonic to me? How? Why? More musical sound reproduction ? !!!

I think it's a smart move. Lots of audiophiles complain Class D sounds cold. Now they can add some warmth, and they can experience themselves they actually are adding distortion.
 
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Adding harmonic distortion is a feature of the newer ESS chips. Since it's there already, why not offer it to the user and add a few lines in the manual?

Better yet would have been high pass for the speakers in case someone uses a subwoofer.
 

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Now this only needs a second build in DAC+ logicboard to do DSP with high- and low-pass :D
 

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from the looks of it this company has an amp module and a dac module and they stuck it in a box and that's it

there's no analog input because the dac board doesnt have adcs (or passthru)

curiously it has preout which is arguably superfluous on a 125w amp but it was a 'freebie' on the dac board

also check out the generic topping smsl rc8a remote

they shou;d have made the preouts to be switchable to analog input as per menu control (if at all electrically possible... obviously not)
 

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I wouldn't call it a huge miss but with this feature set you're better off getting the Hypex power amp with a balanced DAC like the SMSL DA-6 (which is the cheapest balanced DAC).
Same functionality, smaller form factor and a bit cheaper.

When it comes to integrated amps in general I'd look for used older top of the line models from Denon, Marantz or Yamaha. Most of them can be found for less than 500€ and perform quite well and look a lot better than those modern integrates imho.
 
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