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Audiophiles, generally don't like class D amps!
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Doubtful if it can be done. I can't even tell the difference between amps IRL.That in a blind test I participated in. It wasn't super duper rigorously executed. Mostly for fun, but still.
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To test speakers via Youtube video, however, see test below. Then IF, as in that test, the speakers are really cheap and quite bad ( some only have a capacitor as a crossover filter. At that level bad that is) I can hear differences.
One of the speakers, however, seems quite good/ok. You will probably notice which one it is. Try it yourself here. From 6:00 the description of the setup begins and from 7:00 the test itself:
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What did you want me to arrive at after listening to that sound comparison? You’d have to be deaf if you can’t hear the difference between those speakers.Doubtful if it can be done. I can't even tell the difference between amps IRL.That in a blind test I participated in. It wasn't super duper rigorously executed. Mostly for fun, but still.
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To test speakers via Youtube video, however, see test below. Then IF, as in that test, the speakers are really cheap and quite bad ( some only have a capacitor as a crossover filter. At that level bad that is) I can hear differences.
One of the speakers, however, seems quite good/ok. You will probably notice which one it is. Try it yourself here. From 6:00 the description of the setup begins and from 7:00 the test itself:
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In case its not clear, this is a really poor method of audition!
Your playback being the tip of the iceberg.
Put another way, the word 'nice' used in this way seems a misuse ('terrible' seems more accurate), unless you are using a different meaning of the word 'nice' that is generally unknown to most people.
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Nice video as in the channel owners recordings are pristine. Nice as in only 1 variable is changing in the sound demo. Nice as in someone can listen for themselves.
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It is often said here at ASR that listening tests via YouTube are useless and if you think you hear a difference, it is just imagination. I agree with that BUT if you compare gadgets with a big enough difference, you can hear an unimaginable difference. But then it would take a big difference for that to be the case.
If we remove imagination from the equation, what will be the result? This blind test has probably already been referenced in the thread, so you may have already seen the result. If not what do you think, do you think they could detect any difference between :
Basic (cheap) system (A):
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High End system (B):
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Another blind test here, amps in different price ranges, same there do you think they could detect any difference:
(starting on page 80)
If there is a difference something else is usually wrong ?
Normally the diff between two well designed amps are magnitudes smaller than what the youtube compression algorithms does to the signal.
Also good luck finding a microphone that beats a good amplifier….
For example are the amps used inside their performance limits ? So that one is not in clipping while recorded.
Are they both actually sensible designs ?
One of the brands also sell cryo treated cables and other nonsense ? Audiophile aproved ?
Normally the diff between two well designed amps are magnitudes smaller than what the youtube compression algorithms does to the signal.
Also good luck finding a microphone that beats a good amplifier….
For example are the amps used inside their performance limits ? So that one is not in clipping while recorded.
Are they both actually sensible designs ?
One of the brands also sell cryo treated cables and other nonsense ? Audiophile aproved ?
What are the units of measure for "resolving"? Resolves? How many Resolves do I need for "enough"?
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What are the units to measure “detail” when used in speaker reviews here? How do we know when detail is enough?
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You mean your tablet speakers have many details?
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Ask Amir about the unit of measure he uses to corroborate his observation that gear A “was more resolving” than gear B. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
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“Impression of detail” and “warmth”. What are the specific units of measure for both of these attributes referenced here at ASR? I personally want “more impression of detail” in my system. I also want more “warmth”. What tool can I buy to measure both of these qualities so I can evaluate each and then systematically increase each one by 2 increments? I also want good bass, or gooder bass.
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Jawdrops.
The unit is inconveniently large for 21st Century hifi, so one will more often see results reported in units of millijawdrops (mJD) and microjawdrops (μJD).
A turboencabulator. You'll need the accessory dichroic frammistat.
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“LOL.”
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No. Test is highly flawed. Look into blind testing etc. But from your attitude I’d reckon you won’t.
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