As are B&W but they have not designed for a flat response in years now.Yes, both measurement led manufacturers,
Keith
They must have based that on some research they've done, since they could design an accurate speaker in their sleep.
As are B&W but they have not designed for a flat response in years now.Yes, both measurement led manufacturers,
Keith
Sure, this does happen.That's one way to look at it but there are two rather large Audio Note Threads on the Steve Hoffman forum that illustrate that what people want is to take a platform and make it better.
It's no different than buying a Toyota Corolla - you buy it because you can only afford $20,000 then you say - wow this thing has been great for the last 8 years - now I have a better job and more money - I'm going to look at a Camry or hell maybe a Lexus ES-350 - get the same bomb-proof reliability but more power, quieter ride - take all the good stuff and make it better.
No, those speakers are made for different applications (listening distance, max SPL) but the tonality is always very close. Genelec for example has a very large range of speakers, from a tiny 3" 2-way (8010A, 1.5 kg) to a monster sized main monitor with two 18" woofers (1236A, 182 kg). You just have to choose the model which fits your needs best, just buying higher makes no sense - good luck with placing two 1236A on your desktop or trying to run a large mastering room with two 8010A built into the wall .Virtually every audio company (including by the way all the professional loudspeaker and most all of the professional amplifier makers) have more than one model - they offer el cheapo models for the paeons and they sell ridiculously expensive models - You can buy an ATC for $2k or well over $50k. Does that mean that the $2k models are all total shit because the customers decides he wants "more" of that ATC sound?
My, how thoughtless of you. You just stepped on a lot of people's toes without even thinking about it.Conversely, if you bought most any American piece of crap - and if it even survived the warranty - you're not exactly saying to yourself - oh yeah that was a total pile - let me rush out and buy the Malibu. I mean indeed, people caught on to how ****** Ford was on Sedans that they stopped making them - that's how awful they are - they still make the Mustang with all the numerous recalls but I guess people put up with that because of the name badge.
My, how thoughtless of you. You just stepped on a lot of people's toes without even thinking about it.
Mustangs sell because they are fast, sexy and the last remaining example of their genre. To get that package buyers are willing to accept more frequent repairs. Some US vehicles have unusual longevity like the Suburban, for example. Buicks have better than average reliability combined with low repair costs. For unreliable vehicles look at VW and Mercedes.
It's a moral menace.Cars have the function of getting us from one location to another in the cheapest, safest way possible.
Any deviation from this goal, like choosing a car that is not as fuel efficient as possible, or spending more money than you need to get between A and B is silly and irrational.
Then take the bus.Cars have the function of getting us from one location to another in the cheapest, safest way possible.
Any deviation from this goal, like choosing a car that is not as fuel efficient as possible, or spending more money than you need to get between A and B is silly and irrational.
As are B&W but they have not designed for a flat response in years now.
They must have based that on some research they've done, since they could design an accurate speaker in their sleep.
Or, they buy speakers which they then equalize away from flat in order to obey the Harman Curve because it is objectively more subjectively pleasant than flat.So, I guess it is safe to assume that everyone who has commented that purchasing speakers should only be based on the “science” have ended up with the exact same speakers (at least by brand, if not model) since it would be wrong for any of them to have had a preference that differed from any of the others. Because preference is unscientific.
The B&W mention got me thinking about how much better the manufacturing and quality of product is compared to Audio Note speakers.
my BIL really didn't care for the B&W sound - too lean for his taste - whereas I could appreciate both presentations.
Capitalist consumerism, sounds awfully political to me.Having read this entire thread I fear that much of this "hobby" amounts to little more than a severe case of late stage capitalist consumerism. I come to ASR for the science, a small amount of schadenfreude at the expense of audio phools, to understand acoustics and the reproduction of sound, and to get off the karmic cycle of upgrading - which AN seems to be quite adept at exploiting. (I must say though that this thread is as interesting an argument between the orthodox and heretics as I've experienced in quite a while.)
Having read this entire thread I fear that much of this "hobby" amounts to little more than a severe case of late stage capitalist consumerism. I come to ASR for the science, a small amount of schadenfreude at the expense of audio phools, to understand acoustics and the reproduction of sound, and to get off the karmic cycle of upgrading - which AN seems to be quite adept at exploiting. (I must say though that this thread is as interesting an argument between the orthodox and heretics as I've experienced in quite a while.)
No it isn't, but buying an massively overpriced car based solely on a sales pitch that has no basis in the reality of the product could be viewed as a mistake.Cars have the function of getting us from one location to another in the cheapest, safest way possible.
Any deviation from this goal, like choosing a car that is not as fuel efficient as possible, or spending more money than you need to get between A and B is silly and irrational.
Not really there are many ways to skin a cat , but in the AN case there is no cat or skin to begin withSo, I guess it is safe to assume that everyone who has commented that purchasing speakers should only be based on the “science” have ended up with the exact same speakers (at least by brand, if not model) since it would be wrong for any of them to have had a preference that differed from any of the others. Because preference is unscientific.