well, it seems to me that you want to pick on frustrating language war more often to me. what I wanted to say is not that "crude" is good or bad, but want/hope to get more data supported arguements, I am sure Genelecs are not the ultimate and did nothing wrong brand, or that any genelec is better than ATC or whatever brand. All I would hope for wonderful claims to be backed up by data, "unpleasant to the ear" could be due to a basket of reasons, like having boosted highs, weird decay time, distortion spike or whatever other reasons, as I said in the post that you don't respond, is that there ARE a lot of other studios, big and small, that uses Genelec and other brand of Soffit mounting models to do the job, like the very famous capitol studio uses PMC (IIRC) and the list goes on. it will be impossible to work on the genelec based studios if the claim of it must/have to be "crude" and "unpleasant to the ear".Sorry, but you often do this in discussions and have done the same to me which is highly frustrating. You find a sentence, twist it to your liking, and then spin it full circle. Maybe not intentional but read your reply from a third-person view of what you wrote and you will maybe notice it.
It is obvious that @Torbachkristensen, in this case, is using the word "crude" to describe why a speaker is not very good for the job, you can't simply stand working all day long for 10 hours a day using a tool that sounds unpleasant to the ear.
I'm sure plenty of speakers from your favorite brand (Genelec) don't sound unpleasant to the ear, but maybe just not their soffit mounting speakers according to some people.
Speaker brands have their own design metrics so that they can make their products consistent in tonality, so this whatever property makes ATC magical, or say, Genelec Soffit mounted ones unbearable have to be able to be measurable. as such, what I am asking/debating/frustrating to whoever is just simple: back it up with the comparison data. I am perfectly fine if the result is say, "Genelec Main monitors have horrid distortion spike or decay time while having better directivity, thus is worse than ATC in the MLP in the well designed room", or something like "The waveguide on the Genelecs results in far worse distortion/decay" then be it and ATC Soffit mounted monitors are better in that usage. period. but simply claiming with those buzz words are sounding just like fanboys and not convincing enough. so far I didn't see any of these kind of support.
