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ASR Target Curve?

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Looks like ASR is still using Harman's 2018 over-ear target, or something pretty close to it, for most of its headphone reviews.

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It was a joke.. That curve always makes me chuckle. I wanted to see if the bass was still flat when I juiced it up a bit. I was happy to see it was, but I obviously never listen to the bass 35db hot.
 
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It was a joke.. That curve always makes me chuckle. I wanted to see if the bass was still flat when I juiced it up a bit. I was happy to see it was, but I obviously never listen to the bass 35db hot.

I was more concerned about the lack of ear gain. ;)
 

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Looks like a pair of elac bookshelves crossed to 8x 18" dayton ultimaxes
I think it was a pair of MTMs, 1 18" and 9 cheap 12"s, but I'm not 100% what I had in the system when I measured that.
 
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I don't know if it's just for sensitive listeners, but for me personally I notice that Harman curve sounds much more shouty with closed back headphones. I don't mind the bass, but the frequncies at higher mids and treble does introduce more fatigue for me on closed backs, and I usually prefer around 3 db less than harman at 2.000hz and above. With open backs I usually just put 1 db less around 1000-2000hz, and keep everything else around the same as harman.
 

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I don't know if it's just for sensitive listeners, but for me personally I notice that Harman curve sounds much more shouty with closed back headphones. I don't mind the bass, but the frequncies at higher mids and treble does introduce more fatigue for me on closed backs, and I usually prefer around 3 db less than harman at 2.000hz and above. With open backs I usually just put 1 db less around 1000-2000hz, and keep everything else around the same as harman.

The Harman target has a number of shortcomings in terms of achieving an accurate (and also pleasing) sound in my opinion. So I understand where you are coming from on this, Thoer. And I use a variety of other references for the adjustments on my headphones, including the frequency responses of other headphones, and my own listening tests.
 
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The Harman target has a number of shortcomings in terms of achieving an accurate (and also pleasing) sound in my opinion. So I understand where you are coming from on this Thoer. And use a variety of other references for the adjustments on my headphones, including the frequency responses of other headphones, and my own listening tests.
I agree, I do the same. Using harman as a starting point, then adjust from there. I also tend to eq each headphone differently and in my opinion using the oratory eqs often have different results with every headphone that I have tried. Just noticed that in general I find the oratory eqs to be way too sharp with closed backs, while they seem fine to me with open backs.
 
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